EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

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the formula might be more like its not really worth paying for brand writers unless you can leverage that brand, like now all that newer cheaper talent has been infused w the sweet simmons bro-juice, i just wish they wouldnt let him on tv during basketball broadcasts

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:21 (twelve years ago)

and im sure their traffic is shit

― max, Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk man i think theyre doin pretty good, at least the sports stuff, the more pop culture things i could see absolutely no one reading

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:22 (twelve years ago)

stuff that gets the espn homepage pipeline probably does pretty well yeah

max, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)

~synergies~

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)

i enjoy simmons on basketball broadcasts

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:27 (twelve years ago)

omg that is so terrible, u need to go on a visionquest

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:28 (twelve years ago)

the whole new yorker has always been a big red line for conde nast, afaik

i think it's just an ancient thing that owners run prestige media for their own nefarious cultural capital reasons

goole, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:36 (twelve years ago)

what kind of cool ski resort ideas summit hookup parties do the people at tv guide throw, i ask u

goole, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:38 (twelve years ago)

nyer is profitable or very nearly so over the last decade, im pretty sure! not that i dont see your point

max, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:40 (twelve years ago)

oh huh i seem to recall a profile of remnick that said the opposite.

goole, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:43 (twelve years ago)

...that could just be that remnick himself is clueless about the NYer's numbers

goole, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

i mean, i dont think si newhouse is expecting it to make money, ever

max, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:52 (twelve years ago)

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/01/ezra-klein-next-roger-ailes

this is a nothing of a post so i think KD just wanted to air out that title

goole, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 19:28 (twelve years ago)

The only thing on Grantland I read regularly is Mark Harris on the Oscars, but I've occasionally followed links there and think, "I should read Grantland more often."

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)

they have really good basketball stuff m/l all i read there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 19:48 (twelve years ago)

yeah simmons, lowe, keri is all i read there

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:00 (twelve years ago)

grantland nba shootarounds are frequently awesome

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)

eh i find those corny tbh

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:18 (twelve years ago)

it's kind of weird how they got like all of knicks twitter to be contributors even though none of them really has anything to say

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:19 (twelve years ago)

i hope ezra klein's new website is 100% devoted to nba basketball.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:24 (twelve years ago)

there's a guy who does longer bball features (not zane lowe type analysis) that's pretty great. i read all the nerds he brought in - barnwell, lowe, keri. the only pop cult guy i really like is wesley morris; steve hyden is fucking awful and the rest just kinda seems like warmed over vulture (by design obv)(one reason i always kinda blanche at boutique/prestige talk around grantland). love love love rembert browne. the fallout from their fuckup this past week has been interesting cuz i've always been curious at just how hands on simmons is at this point. then something like an oral history of swingers goes up...

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:48 (twelve years ago)

probably most entertaining grantland thing this week was finding out that nate silver has hired a weather nerd.

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:49 (twelve years ago)

what does rembert browne do, middlebrow cultural criticism? i've never read him

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:51 (twelve years ago)

would've preferred "Nate Silver has hired a boyfriend"

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:52 (twelve years ago)

rem does rap, race, reality tv... pop cult, i guess. great, great writer, smart kid

max, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:00 (twelve years ago)

it's generally gawker/vulture kinda stuff though less 'here's some shit i found on the internet' than that. occasionally he does a 'but seriously folx' thing like this - http://grantland.com/the-triangle/stanford-man-richard-sherman-and-the-thug-athlete-narrative/. i'm an old man and when i find a millenial internet writer whose voice i not only find tolerable but charming (maybe entertaining is a better word there but somehow not specific enough - there's tons of interent things i find intolerable yet entertaining)(www.ilxor.com) i take what i can get. i mean i don't think caity weaver should get a pulitzer prize but when i see that byline i go 'this should be good', there's added value there beyond just the 'well here's a story i'm gonna read eventually cuz every internet outlet is gonna write their version so i might as well read this one' (which reminds me i've been meaning to start a thread about the homogenization of the internet but have never bothered enough to investigate how much my hunch there is accurate)(i mean seriously why did thinkprogress do golden globes red carpet coverage?)

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:08 (twelve years ago)

i've been meaning to start a thread about the homogenization of the internet but have never bothered enough to investigate how much my hunch there is accurate

been feeling this real bad lately, like whatever happened to being able to -find- something, something fresh to you. instead the internet is like this ever-constricting circle of empty attempts to up the urgency on anything fool enough to poke its head up and become 'news'

j., Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:16 (twelve years ago)

rip geocities

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:18 (twelve years ago)

yeah it's tough for me to know how real it is or if it's just i've liked/followed too many fluffy sites. i strongly suspect it's largely the latter but man i've followed junkfood internet sites for awhile and it didn't used to seem like this. i think the way upworthy has nearly destroyed the likelihood of seeing a non-obnoxious headline this decade is a factor also. i mean ppl hate buzzfeed and god knows there's evil lurking there (perpetua) and there are things there that horrify me personally (look i know the numbers and i get the demographics to understand why the entire 90s has been reduced 'man remember tgif on abc' but it still hurts *goes off to give new malkmus album another chance*), but there's a few 'good' things and they save me time finding youtube clips of dogs so i bear no ill will toward them really but upworthy man. a fucking cancer. lately it reminds me of how cable used to be really diverse and the channels had a purpose (the 'a' and 'e' in a&e meant something man) and then everybody figured out their lives would be so much easier if they just showed friends reruns.

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:29 (twelve years ago)

btw global warming will likely devastate our way of life within our lifetimes

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:31 (twelve years ago)

good tv shows today are way better than good 90s tv shows

iatee, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:31 (twelve years ago)

no show is better than homicide

j., Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:37 (twelve years ago)

yeah i think the golden age etc is over or close enough (still rep for mad men what can i say) but agree that the yr average 'good, not great' tv show now (justified, game of thrones, whatever) is way better yr average 'good, not great' from the 90s.

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:38 (twelve years ago)

it's a brand new era but it came too late

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:39 (twelve years ago)

tv inequality is like income inequality, the average tv show has suffered and its quality of tv-life continues to decrease, but the top 1% of tv shows are living the good life

iatee, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:40 (twelve years ago)

lol

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:41 (twelve years ago)

nbc = detroit

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:42 (twelve years ago)

tv is better now because televisions are better, homicide is even better than it used to be

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 03:45 (twelve years ago)

i definitely feel like grooming an rss account is like a part time job - u have to be constantly weeding + looking for hot new rss edge

Mordy , Thursday, 23 January 2014 04:23 (twelve years ago)

no you can do it without smoking mordy

iatee, Thursday, 23 January 2014 04:36 (twelve years ago)

who is smoking mordy

Mordy , Thursday, 23 January 2014 04:57 (twelve years ago)

I just smoked you, sorry

iatee, Thursday, 23 January 2014 05:00 (twelve years ago)

Matt Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 1m
Excited to be pursuing some new opportunities in the near future with @MelissaBell, @EzraKlein, & @DylanMatt — more details soon.

ha this is def a joke right

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:45 (twelve years ago)

gross

Murgatroid, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:46 (twelve years ago)

Matt Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 2m
Excited about the next thing, but I’m very sad to be leaving @Slate and its amazingly creative, brilliant, funny, and fun team.

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:50 (twelve years ago)

hire pareene so I don't have to look at salon anymore

polyphonic, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:52 (twelve years ago)

naw hes goin w greenwald

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:53 (twelve years ago)

Is he? That makes 100% sense

polyphonic, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:53 (twelve years ago)

ha i just made that up

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:54 (twelve years ago)

i do KNOW him irl tho so maybe he told me

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 January 2014 19:54 (twelve years ago)


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