GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

yeah Balaban's great. lol @ his book

xp

This show is great again

Adam basically sexually assaulted Natalia (and he didn't seem to treat Hannah too great in the sack either), made him way less sympathetic to me

yeah he's a pig for doing that but she seemed to be yelling at him b/c he dumped her and never called

i think this is the worst season by far

well this ep was the worst since s1 imo

hope it turns around but agree with max. everything so far has been redundant at best.

i watched up through the sixth episode on a screener and found it just got worse. though other people think the 4th, 5th, 6th episodes redeemed the first three so maybe im just wrong

there's no reason to publicly trash someone like that

Not to like hyperlink a thinkpiece or whatever, but Adam kind of assaulted her. I laughed at "Did you leave in a hurry?" and then laughed harder at Ray laughing at the zing, anyway.

Also kind of grossed out by Adam's grunting "I can't sleep if I don't come" with Shoshanna in the room.

She seemed way more pissed about him not calling, she obviously cares about him still

watched up through the sixth episode on a screener

Woah didn't know Scrooge McDuck posted here, congrats.

"Worst since s1" doesnot scan to me, nearly half of s2 was a waste of time

yeah Season 2 was pretty bad

I've rarely completely loved or completely hate an episode of the show. There's usually some good dialogue, and there's usually at least the enjoyment of recognition (the locations, the character types, the reasonably-well-done "nowness" of it). So it's always a show that entertains me enough to keep watching and rarely blows me away.

agreed

It's ever so shallow...

(But I think that's rather apposite)

the reasonably-well-done "nowness" of it

So well put and so key. Unlike every other movie or TV show where a young person's bedroom has been production-designed with completely incongruous band posters, everything seems totally real on GIRLS

@Walter Galt, which is funny because I recommended it to my 42-year old workmate. He watched 5 minutes of it and said all of it felt too contrived/forced.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/fa/fa87a4aa3343c8063a073e8f11be03b29c8f12e7e1973f5b4f6808bf4e0760fd.jpg

shoshanna feels like one of those occasional tertiary side characters who is funny precisely because they are a (one-note) "type" who has been inflated into one of the main characters. it's like if the soup nazi moved in with jerry or something and just kept on doing the same schtick. not that it really bothers me though.

i think this is a pretty good show, probably in the top 25% of recentish TV dramas. it's not one of the best things on TV, it's not one of the worst, it's not revolutionary, it's just... pretty good. like all shows it has subplots and whole episodes that fall flat, and others that are very good. which i'm fine with.

kramer was sort of one-note

Yeah, some of Shoshana's lines this season have felt more like, "Wouldn't it be funny for Shoshana to say this?" than genuine-sounding dialogue. But I guess she's always kind of flirted with caricature.

i laughed when the guy at the bar described shoshanna yelling "hey hottie you know where to find some dank weed"

I think this season is a lot less organic so far... like, Caroline is Poochie

Just throw a grenade into the foxhole and see what happens

I'm not gonna stress though, still gonna watch

Like these tricks feel like what people do in creative writing classes do when they're on deadline at the end of the semester and are at a loss

I don't think the pressure of meeting the deadlines of a season has been conducive to the writers

They should take a year off like Louie

kramer was sort of one-note

― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you know, I thought of that. i'm actually not a seinfeld fan, but I didn't want to anger those who are/were.

"Did Marnie finally throw in the towel?"

great episode imo

When you watch these on-demand, there are these little after-interviews with Dunham and they're awful. It's just like Dunham explaining what happened in the show and why in the most captain-obviousy way whatsoever.

Yeah those are the worst.

As for ep 3 -- the introduction of Adam's sister was sort of oddly handled I thought, like she was actually a seriously disturbed and disturbing character being handled in what seemed like a comic and lighthearted way and I wasn't sure what to make of it.

ok dying at the gawker bit.

just finished seasons 1 and 2 on dvd. had to watch season 1 twice because i really didn't know what to think about it. specifically whether we were meant to like these people.

and according to the commentaries, the special effect in 2.09 is glycerin and conditioner. lena's dad complained about the amount, saying it was too much. odd conversation to have with your dad...

feel like Laird is now my favorite/most sympathetic character

show seems to be going out of its way to make it really clear how horrible a person Jessa is

There was a subtle little touch I liked in the rehab ep, in the scene where Adam and Shoshana go off on a hike in the woods and Lena refuses and lies down and can be heard listening to This American Life (on her phone, I guess). There was sort of an insight there into both the security blanket-like effects of NPR programming and into Hannah's character there, I thought.

Funny about Laird, cuz same actor plays the comically-evil Councilman Jamm on Parks and Rec. Love that guy.

http://www.manrepeller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/130123-ep13-laird-600.jpg http://24.media.tumblr.com/b8eb988d30369e87f6ac447a5b9a101e/tumblr_mr6iaxQKoD1r5pl3ao1_500.gif

yeah jon glaser is awesome

hardest lols in the history of this show at "fat-free muffin of sociopathic detachment"

1 - Seems like a lot of the characterizations on here have reached self parody
2 - some pretty good dialogue this week
3 - lol gawker
4 - marnie is totally the kind of asshole who jogs full tilt down the sidewalks of chinatown with headphones on

marnie is getting so marnie in these new episodes she's gonna go meta soon

also Adam's sister's clothing ensemble when they went to the cemetery was so great

Digging the hell out of this season so far. Leaning equally on the humor and loathsomeness is a good lookfor them.

hannah is now at larry david levels of cartoonish self absorption.

she always was.

Yeah but now it's extra super duper obvious

Like I have had tons of convos w/ ppl who legitimately do not pick up on the fact that Hannah is meant to be a pretty unlikable character and I feel like this is the first episode that gets really explicit about that and also the first that uses it as a plot point.

otm

yeah this ep was maybe a shark-jumping moment w/r/t the characters seeming like actual plausible people instead of (or in addition to) broad (lol) caricatures. I dig it tho. I also continue to envy the (old?) people who are all head-scratching "Do real people actually do that???" yes my generation is legit filled with narcissists and addicts and compulsive liars, let me show you them

How the hell did Laird get a turtle into a POM bottle