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Jesus, Snoop

thread of snoop pictured with other ppl cuz he does this a lot

Walter Galt, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:30 (twelve years ago)

Yes, you are correct, Walter.

Only way that could've more awkward would have been if Snoop had posted "Stunt double for my kung-fu movie, hahahahahah."

pplains, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:55 (twelve years ago)

I have a question. If a white was to cover a song by a black artist, which specifically deals with issues in the black community, it would be problematic to change the words to refer to a more general group, right? Say, The Bottle, by Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson; changing "See that black boy over there, runnin' scared" to "See that young boy over there, runnin' scared".

Obviously alcoholism is a problem in many communities, but something about the re-appropriation makes me uncomfortable. And a white artist singing the original lyrics sounds like an accusatory outsider.

No big deal, just wondering what people's thoughts are.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

Meant to be "If a white artist", of course.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

well you could argue that changing the lyrics shows disrespect to the author so

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:45 (twelve years ago)

i'm generally an "intent-over-content" guy when it comes to taboo language (erring on the side of not intentionally pissing people off for no fucking reason) so my inclination would be to respect authorial intent. i think chris rock's routine about white people singing along to rap may apply.

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

there's something problematic about removing blackness from a text in order for a white artist to be able to perform it but

well you could argue that changing the lyrics shows disrespect to the author

this isn't what's problematic about it. people covering songs change up the lyrics all the time and it's not "disrespectful," gtfo w/authorial totalitarianism, personalizing a song by changing the lyrics up a little is as totally ok. but when race is a factor, then the question gets a little thorny. (gender too maybe.)

my war against "so" at the end of a sentence continues in all cases

second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:54 (twelve years ago)

aero, your response seems to be "eh, change it if you want; author doesn't get to make you say what they want to but race and gender may make it complicated", which given that was the point of the conversation in the first place (unless i'm reading this wrong) doesn't really address the issue at all
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/gabriel-peter-so-300x300.jpg...

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:43 (twelve years ago)

I think the point was more "make sure the change says what you want it to say" and that sometimes erasing mention of color says something you don't intend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLTwX0duY4

SHAUN (DJP), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:46 (twelve years ago)

write a new song, bros

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:29 (twelve years ago)

^^^^

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:08 (twelve years ago)

gourdsplayingginandjuice.youtube.com

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:13 (twelve years ago)

(gender too maybe.)

You have an issue with female singers gender-flipping lyrics so they're about guys?

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:13 (twelve years ago)

no I just really hated "I Am Man," feel like it really missed the point

second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:15 (twelve years ago)

personally thought the Oran Juice Jones version of Bobbie Gentry "Fancy" was a lil awkward

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:18 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ov9082a1c

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:22 (twelve years ago)

though i suppose me'shell self-identifies as bi, just always thought that would be a fun song to gender flip

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:23 (twelve years ago)

Always wanted to do a cover of "Johnny, Are You Queer?"

pplains, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:50 (twelve years ago)

Melissa Etheridge's comeback single: "Hello Lucille, Are You a Lesbian?"

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:57 (twelve years ago)

four weeks pass...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711rXz-SD1L._SL1000_.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:40 (twelve years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71iZedLLhDL._SL1000_.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:40 (twelve years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516CX-%2BTixL.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:40 (twelve years ago)

kinda lol, prob racist

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:47 (twelve years ago)

eh, accurate enough, let's face it

Nhex, Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:50 (twelve years ago)

love dude's hi top fade

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 February 2014 20:58 (twelve years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51OQOhWHWGL.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:15 (twelve years ago)

it's the combo hi-top fade/AIR FORCE sweatshirt that kills me

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:20 (twelve years ago)

It looks like you're racially segregating. Would you like help?

bnw, Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:22 (twelve years ago)

trying to do a clippy / afro joke; not working when i type it out
or even conceptually really

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:29 (twelve years ago)

how about that katy perry video?

*plop* son (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:12 (twelve years ago)

don't make me search bro

Nhex, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:20 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSOMA3QBU0

*plop* son (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 21 February 2014 22:01 (twelve years ago)

racist against ancient egyptians

Mordy , Friday, 21 February 2014 22:08 (twelve years ago)

holy shit that is the best youtube preview image since "I Miss You"

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:14 (twelve years ago)

Dude's wearing like 10 necklaces. 90% of all necklaces are god-related. Odds are, one of his necklaces is gonna be someone's god.

how's life, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 01:20 (twelve years ago)

jesus christ idiot prop people, stop selecting necklaces at random without checking whether they say the name of a currently-worshipped god

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:10 (twelve years ago)

the crappily drawn red circle

4. Nels Cline and My Uncle Eat Soup at Panera Bread (3:37) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 05:06 (twelve years ago)

it's the combo hi-top fade/AIR FORCE sweatshirt that kills me

― sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's getting hyped because office is so fly

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 05:14 (twelve years ago)

i don't think so. your hair doesn't get like that when you become excited.

james franco, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 05:17 (twelve years ago)

Fuck you, Nathan Deal

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/georgia-governor-okay-confederate-flag-license-plate-part-cultural-heritage-our-state

Fucking horrible.

anything but a martyr (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 23:32 (twelve years ago)

omg. "hopefully those who are offended will look at history" - um i think thats why they're offended ya horses ass

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 28 February 2014 21:40 (twelve years ago)

unsure if this is more racist or sexist

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/11/rush-limbaugh-admits-republicans-refuse-work-obama-black.html

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 00:11 (twelve years ago)

Why choose?!

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 00:13 (twelve years ago)

I'd vote neither tbh

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 00:15 (twelve years ago)

just kinda dumb

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:38 (twelve years ago)

Not sure how long the comeback has been in effect, but hi-top fades were noticeably more common this year in Twin Cities secondary schools.

Peter Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 03:25 (twelve years ago)

Windbag blows wind.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 03:51 (twelve years ago)

is the word "denigrate" racist

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:34 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/28/magazine/on-language-dark-words-of-disapproval.html

The etymology of the word denigrate was promptly called to my attention by a media colleague, who wondered whether the Mayor was unwittingly using a term that illustrates how racism is buried in the language.

Niger is Latin for ''black''; denigrationem is Late Latin for ''a blackening.'' The de- does not mean ''the opposite or reverse of,'' as de- so often does; in this case, as in denude and declaim, it means ''completely''; thus, denigrate is rooted in ''to blacken completely.'' The term was picked up as a verb in Old French meaning ''to blacken'' and transferred to English in the 16th century in the sense of ''darken a good name,'' or ''defame.''

Historically, black and dark have signified ''bad'' (Satan was called the Prince of Darkness long before the self-styled meanie, Robert Novak, was born), and white and light have meant ''good'' (none but the brave deserve the fair, meaning ''light-colored'').

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:13 (twelve years ago)


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