龜 please tell me about a delicious Chinese breakfast
― pretty krulls make glaives (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 19 January 2014 04:37 (twelve years ago)
I'm eating real chinese food all the time now
It's fucking amazing
me too/yes, yes it is
― quincie, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:32 (twelve years ago)
I am also curious about actual delicious Chinese breakfast; all I know is that Taipei has tons of great bakeries, so breakfast for me is delicious, delicious bread/pastry. Oh and sometimes noodle soup.
I do not get congee, but I would like to understand the appeal.
― quincie, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:35 (twelve years ago)
quincie just get up in the morning and take a walk and figure out where all the Chinese people are eating and walk in and point at things
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:36 (twelve years ago)
http://travel.cnn.com/explorations/eat/40-taiwanese-food-296093
Think I've hit about ten of these in the first week, but have not yet visited a night market (that will happen in the next few days) and will no doubt knock off a bunch of these in one go.
xpost: there is definitely a Taiwan breakfast thing that involves an egg and a thin pancake/crepe type thing that I will try. Also various soup sorts of things. None of these places has an English menu (or any menu, actually), so I will definitely point and say thank you six hundred times and hopefully not come off as a complete asshole.
― quincie, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:42 (twelve years ago)
But still, congee. What is up with that? I like lots of the pickled things, so maybe the idea is to use congee as a vehicle for that stuff? IDGI though, would rather have a nice bowl of rice.
― quincie, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:44 (twelve years ago)
― pretty krulls make glaives (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:37 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
I went out for a walk this morning and bought some scallion pancakes from this really nice lady on the street
And this like """pastry""" made with scallions and eggs
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:49 (twelve years ago)
It's just like 100x better than what you can get in NYC Chinatown. And I was just there
Like the people are the same but the ingredients, how they cook it, what they cook it on, I think it all makes a difference
Maybe it's the heavy metals + chemicals
But every iteration is just better over here man
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:50 (twelve years ago)
― quincie, Sunday, January 19, 2014 5:44 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah you eat the pickled salty things and drink the congee to take the edge off
It's like a chaser
It's an acquired taste
I like to just have congee plain by itself, it's really good for settling your stomach or if you're feeling queasy you know
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:51 (twelve years ago)
xpost: there is definitely a Taiwan breakfast thing that involves an egg and a thin pancake/crepe type thing that I will try
I've had this it's really really good
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:56 (twelve years ago)
scallion pancakes sound so good
― mh, Sunday, 19 January 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/DgatTcJ.jpg
You know what's even better than soup DUMPLINGS!? These lil guys
― 龜, Sunday, 26 January 2014 06:44 (twelve years ago)
I have not had those lil guys, but I have had a bigger version (steam bun that gets crisped on the bottom).
Hard to imagine anything better than soup DUMPLINGS!, tho.
― quincie, Sunday, 26 January 2014 09:11 (twelve years ago)
I have had "crummy" North American (Canadian) versions of scallion pancakes, for breakfast too, one of my favourite ways to start a day
Been pestering all administrative bodies to get my ass to China asap
― pretty krulls make glaives (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 26 January 2014 13:16 (twelve years ago)
The DUMPLINGS! I just posted are also soup DUMPLINGS! they have soup inside of them
It's darker grittier reboot of the soup dumpling
BTW some of the western food is better here than in America too
For example the fancy cheeses are imported from France where they're allowed to use unpasteurized milk
Like I have never really liked brie but my roommate bought some French brie and it was fantastic
― 龜, Sunday, 26 January 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)
China is turning me into a food libertarian
Bathe me in gutter oil
― 龜, Sunday, 26 January 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)
Think my heart just stopped
It's been nice, posting here
― 龜, Sunday, 26 January 2014 13:33 (twelve years ago)
Please don't die before I get to Shanghai! That rhymes, see.
― quincie, Monday, 27 January 2014 01:52 (twelve years ago)
congee is nice warm comfort food. spiced with ginger and add a dash of pepper and spring onion what's not to like?
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Monday, 27 January 2014 12:14 (twelve years ago)
Surely you're being ironic
― 龜, Monday, 27 January 2014 12:39 (twelve years ago)
像你的婚禮當天的雨
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Monday, 27 January 2014 12:50 (twelve years ago)
I have a real chinese food cooking question. Say I am a real chinese home cook, and I'm making something that requires beef or chicken (or fish, or pork, whatevs) broth. What do I do if I'm not equipped to make that stuff from scratch? Do I get a can from the supermarket, or is there a frozen version, or do I go to my local brothmonger and ask for some plain broth to take home?
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:42 (twelve years ago)
You can totally get a can from the supermarket! #nevercookedrealchinesefoodinhislife
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:49 (twelve years ago)
Honestly have never been to a Chinese person's kitchen that didn't have this in the pantry
http://i.imgur.com/LNyVgTS.jpg
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:50 (twelve years ago)
I don't think beef stock is a big part of Chinese cooking since it wasn't until recently that beef became a part of Chinese cuisine (iirc cows were too valuable in the field to use for food)
Pork bone soup is a big thing but I can't really recall if there are any recipes that call for only pork stock
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:55 (twelve years ago)
Hungry now, FYI.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)
I suppose this is the thread where I confess that I've eaten chicken bouillon powder by the spoonful from the can :(
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:07 (twelve years ago)
Isn't that called the #highlyfe?
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:09 (twelve years ago)
Hmmmmm OK I'm think the answer is "go out for beef noodle soup, do not try to make at home." Which is fine because there are a couple of places to choose from within a ten-minute walk, and it costs like $7 USD for both of us WITH BEER.
Why would I cook this at home, is the real question.
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:28 (twelve years ago)
Yeah seriously
I think there's more going on in beef noodle soup than just the stock
Much more
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:30 (twelve years ago)
Yeah I'm being an idiot.
I think I turned a real chinese food corner recently: went out for indian and found using a fork kind of weird/awkward.
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:32 (twelve years ago)
chicken stock http://www.ocado.com/catalog/images-hires/11114011_H.jpg?identifier=1678083e7ff90bd404baad3f60bffa37
beef noodle soup at homehttp://www.acrimonie.com/a/src/138973192542.jpg
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 15:01 (twelve years ago)
I really don't think there's ever an economy in making your own stock unless you have access to a lot of bones and you are feeding 50 people.
well isn't that the basis for...
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 15:05 (twelve years ago)
http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130117092525/evchk/images/thumb/c/c6/17la2p3.jpg/480px-17la2p3.jpg
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 15:07 (twelve years ago)
http://images.sbar.com.cn/2010/04/21/ee549d22215dd5b1340fcf5e9e507a3c.jpg
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:37 (twelve years ago)
^^^ I love greens prepared like this. I have not managed to replicate it at home very well.
I thought of this thread yesterday when I was buying some steam buns from a department store food hall and the guy selling them assured me, "no MSG, no chicken powder!" And I'm thinking "but chicken powder is a *good* thing, right?"
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:21 (twelve years ago)
i think you could make yourself a nice beef noodle soup by following basically
-- get some fatty but not too fatty beef, preferably with some bones. don't be too picky about what beef is going in there. short rib would even work. and you can put some beef tendon in too, if you like that.
-- boil beef briefly, drain water and clean beef with cold water.
-- hot oil, add white part of scallion, whole cloves of garlic, pixian bean paste, a tiny amount of sugar or a small amount of tomato, add in beef, let it brown and get dank on the bottom of the pan, add in star anise + cassia + sichuan peppercorn + salt + maybe some dried chilies if you want it spicy.
-- cover everything in water and let it boil away until your beef is reduced to a pieces that can barely withstand the pressure of a chopstick squeeze.
-- optional but not fully recommended: strain your stock and remove the beef, freeze the stock and scrape off the pearly white fat from the top, reheat.
-- grab some flour and a big bowl, add eggs and water and salt and make dough, knead it until it's barely kneadable anymore, roll it out, cut it into strips, rolls the strips flat or however the hell you want to make noodles.
-- boil noodles in separate pot of salted water, take them out and give them a rinse so that they won't affect the perfectly balanced viscosity of your soup with floury thickness. put in bowl. if you're feeding a bunch of people, the noodles can chill in the bowl for a while, don't worry.
-- optional: get some fresh greens and let them barely cook through on top of your stock, just dunking them in and out with chopsticks.
-- cover cooked noodles in bowl with dank brownish red (red from the bean paste!) beef stock, agitate to destick the noodles.
-- put greens on top, put beef on top making sure to equally divide fatty or white skin sort of pieces and tendon pieces if those are in there, put pickled mustard greens on top, put a sprinkling of green scallion on top which should be leftover from putting the white part in the oil.
-- provide black vinegar when serving to allow the individual diner to balance the fattiness of the stock with the acidity of the vinegar.
it sounds like a lot of work but i promise it's not.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:35 (twelve years ago)
shopping in the west, i can't bear the price charged for lamb but careful supermarket shopping or a kindly butcher can provide you with very, very cheap lamb bones that are still fairly meaty. brewing up a milky white rich as fuck lamb soup threaded with boiled off shreds of meat and then turning it into a welcoming home for your simple noodles and a bit of vinegar, amazing. and i like doing this thing i learned from a qinghai restaurant where they prepare a tomato base in a separate pan, just cooking down some tomatoes, bit of salt, bit of cumin, bit of chili, and then mixing tomato mixture + lamb soup + maybe some stirfried lamb liver or other lamb pieces + noodles in a bowl.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:41 (twelve years ago)
oh, cilantro with that lamb soup, of course. heaped with cilantro at the end.
and the availability of the type of chicken appropriate for making stock is... the situation is not the same in china, you get a lot of old, old chickens that can't be turned into anything but stock. throw it in, head and all and boil it for an afternoon, then add some goji berries or whatever other sorta medicinal and tasty elements at the end: good to go.
and pork bones, man, if you're not in china, somebody somewhere is just throwing away perfectly good pork bones that you could be making a simple stock with.
i think the chinese home stock situation is a lot less complicated than you're all making it out to be. they just boil bones and meat! there's like serious chinese stock recipes but you're not going down that road, you're not clarifying anything! you parboil and clean whatever you're going to boil, bone or meatwise, then let it ride.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:45 (twelve years ago)
quincie the veg there is tung choi 通菜 it's very soft (the stem is hollow). fry the veg in the wok with a bit of shrimp paste and garlic (and a tiny bit of chopped chilli) is all you need. takes 5 mins.
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:49 (twelve years ago)
Hah up north we call that 空心菜 (hollow heart vegetable)
― 龜, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:51 (twelve years ago)
通菜 seems more elegant though
Excellent home cooking tips, thanking u!
I'm definitely gonna give it a go when I'm back in the states, dylannnnnnnn. Right now I'm in a super under-equipped kitchen in a rental apartment (even making rice was a struggle until nice landlady lent us her rice maker), so I'm not gonna undertake much in the way of cooking adventures here (here = Taipei, I'm here for another two weeks before Shanghai). But I'm c&p your recipe/instructions for use back in DC. I have good access to inter'l/"ethnic" grocery stores in the DC 'burbs, so I should be able to made this bones things happen.
Ken c, did not know about shrimp paste thing. I never know what the saucy stuff is. Oyster sauce, sometimes? I dunno but I have yet to run into sauteed green stuff here that I don't like a lot. Had some pea shoots that were so good I swear I might give up pork for them. Not really but I mean, close.
― quincie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:58 (twelve years ago)
oh dylannnnnn and anyone else, I posed this question to dayo on 77 borad, any insight?
Hey dayo do you know anything about Dandong? Should I go to there after N. Korea y/n (it would mean less time in Beijing and also more $$$).
― quincie, Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:56 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't know anything
Now that dylannnnnn has resurfaced, you should ask him
I believe he's been to at least one of the NK border towns
― 龜, Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:32 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― quincie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:00 (twelve years ago)
http://pic6.nipic.com/20100330/2590383_154854004777_2.jpg
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:31 (twelve years ago)
lol http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-laLziW8cjpU/TzhrIJUpq3I/AAAAAAAABlE/BjpANfJ-Nxk/s1600/IMG_7493_watermark.jpg
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:32 (twelve years ago)
Not really getting the cheese part of that!
― quincie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)
I've had that exact dish fyi
― 龜, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:52 (twelve years ago)
is this a Real Chinese Food y/n
― quincie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:55 (twelve years ago)
Had 腊八蒜 today, garlic cloves soaked in black vinegar
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/SH/AD6B7F51-DBC4-4B05-A471-575A682BAEDF_zpsuhs5rba4.jpg
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/SH/79B82362-DDD6-43C6-8B4E-B16493DA38B9_zpsff09gpu0.jpg
The 腊八 refers to the date on the lunar calendar when you first start to pickle 'em
Apparently if you pickle them at any other time of year they won't turn green
In the second pic, that is what a clove looks like when bit straight through
It's unbelievably green actually
― 龜, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:55 (twelve years ago)