indefensible: john gruber

jon "the nut" grubers krazy apple computer blog!!

i nutted on this memo, or as we call it, "grubering"

http://i.imgur.com/6jSeRpH.jpg

check out the site

"site" rhymes with paul bucheit

who is holding a gun itt

this story simply could not have been told w/o a lot of dots http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/02/24/thousand-nos-yes

Some Classic Claim Chowdhry ★
So much to choose from, but here’s a good one from 2009:

Investors should not think the upcoming version of iPhone 3 is going to be as successful as iPhone 2.0 because it will have solid competition from Palm Pre, developed by ex-Apple designer Jon Rubinstein.

Palm Pre has a superior operating system than iPhone. It runs on a better network — Sprint CDMA — versus iPhone which runs on GSM.

I mean, obviously, the original assertion was comical, but dragging up things in 2014 that someone said on the internet in 2009 is a deeply, deeply vindictive and fearful tactic often rooted in deep personal insecurity. If this guy was a co-worker I'd steer around him.

he's really mad about that new apple book huh

seek out the 9to5 mac post about jobs throwing a pencil at eddy cue

how about u seek it out and link it here

throw a pencil at eddy cue yrself, carpe diem

http://twitter.com/pschiller/status/447769180977504256

Damn, sick comeback!!

in general it seems like the book isn't worth it. wish she'd distilled the new info into a solid article or something though.

check out yesterday's wsj piece about the original iphone. i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

click the link at the end of this article http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/03/25/apple-engineer-recalls-the-iphones-birth/

markers, you're sounding disturbingly like one of those dudes who posts to fan sites for anime or w/e who think somebody else is a moron for not remembering which episode of Sailor Moon involved some incident

i love you man, but this is a bad look

how do you get that?

i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh shit :0

i think that was meant to be more about his laziness than anything else?

and the tone was just returning the volley. anyway if i'm being an apple defender here ok but i'm not even sure i am really but who knows

i don't think apple is fucked

assuming that we would know the significance of that post in relation to apple history
that we would know what 9to5 mac is, probably a blog or something?
that we want to go to some other site to read about what is probably a passing anecdote

well the first thing was just in the news, it's not old. i'm surprised you're not aware of the second, at least due to mark gurman's scoops, but i guess i could be super down the rabbit hole here. lastly, you guys do spend a lot of time talking about fedoras and other useless shit, so i'm sorry you wouldn't want to spend two seconds on this

and yes, this also qualifies as useless shit.

anyway, we're friends, lets not fight

I have read a lot of random apple stuff in my day but I have no idea who mark gurman is, as far as data points go

I'd say that crafting a cool post tying that anecdote in would be neat!

he broke the healthbook stuff the other week and has a lot of other apple scoops. sorry, i guess i really *am* down in a rabbit hole here, even in respect to you guys. i should probably spend less time following the minutae on twitter and elsewhere, but for now and the past couple years i really have, at the expense of other interests too

i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs

all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting

i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/

forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.

now i wish you hadnt

next time i won't

it's good to be back

I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting

gonna put that picture itt

got distracted for a moment, but

http://i.imgur.com/JCCTJyi.jpg

from macrumors

shit look at that thing

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

good link coming in

http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Azure/Learn-how-Vesper-built-offline-sync-using-Azure-Mobile-Services-

watch it

at least a little

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.