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a girl i talked to on NYE was annoyed that Eowyn was depicted as looking all feeble and afraid just before she slew the witch king. petty i say

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been reading lately about how Tolkien based much of the hobbits on Kentucky folk - the bare feet and tobacco lurv and such. Pretty cool.

I love the non-score musical moments in these films: Merry and Pippin singing and dancing on the table, Pippin singing to Denethor, Eowyn singing at Theodred's funeral (in the extended ed Two Towers). Of course, I also love the score, especially Howard Shore's thorough constant reinterpretations of the hobbit theme to match their circumstances.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 January 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been reading lately about how Tolkien based much of the hobbits on Kentucky folk - the bare feet and tobacco lurv and such. Pretty cool.

You merely seek to justify a way to smoke weed. Nicely done!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the signature theme (i.e. the one you hear when the 'Lord Of The Rings' title appears at the start of the films) i find really spine-tinglingly lush

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Starting all three movies in the same quietly understated way for the titles was one of the smartest things Shore and Jackson did, hands down. It's the antithesis of the Star Wars hyperdramatic start.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

very true, although the turning of the SW title theme (the point when the text fades and the camera pans) is still my favourite 'something major is about to go down' musical moment

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I will not deny this. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i started thinking about how much more it is going to resonate in Episode III with the Vaderizing, woo fucking hoo! (i know i know, but now this trilogy has closed i must begin to turn my thoughts to the remaining one)

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I fear what at this point I was well looking forward to some years back will now be an anticlimax. Jackson really did clean Lucas's clock in the end.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

totally and thoroughly.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

ok my least favourite musical moment is when aragorn starts singing at his coronation.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i quite like Gollum's Song tho (!)

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It's actually a moment straight from the text (though there he speaks rather than sings it and it's quoting an ancestor who spoke on the establishment of the Numenorean Realms-in-exile and oh god I really should get to work).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

and no i don't mean the 'mountain pool, so nice and cool' thing, although that is great

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I figured as much, Ned, but it seemed to invite giggles from the audience.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

See, that's the difference between us sophisticated types in SoCal and you provincials up there in WannabeFranceLand. That is the name of the place, right?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, we were all like "HAR HAR HAR" and then some guys spilled their poutine on their pants

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

oh no, open war is upon us

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

All is clear. Slocki and I must unite to kill the quailing limey.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

highfives!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

if you want me, come and claim me

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ew, no thanks.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

that's okay, i didn't want YOU to anyway

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Go back to the shadow, sideburn demon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

*shakes fist nedwards and curses as darkness envelopes once more*

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Howard Shore should have worked "Where There's A Whip, THere's A Way" in there somewhere.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You evil man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Medved, your friend. (As it is I remember Ari Fleischer wittering on somewhere about trying to draw parallels between himself and Frodo, so fuck 'em both.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

what? ari fleischer claimed to be frodo-like? that's insane!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

god, michael medved is a douche

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

that goldwyn "western union" quote doesn't even make sense in that context!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

what? ari fleischer claimed to be frodo-like? that's insane!

It wasn't the exact quote, but he talked about loving the films (fine enough) and then made some sort of half-assed 'reminds me of my own struggles' followup. I'm so glad I only read my news these days, I can't imagine what hearing that would have made me do.

The seventies Medved is long, long gone.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know where else to post this, but I think this is k-cool. I'm quoting a commercial auto policy for a horse farm whose business name happens to be R1v3nd3ll LLC. I can't wait to talk to these people on the phone!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my friends named her house that (several years ago).

― C J (C J), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Was there ever a point in time when Michael Medved wasn't a gigantic soppy douche?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, for as long as I've been aware of him, I've thought his middle name was "Massengill".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mom, can I ask you a personal question?"
"Well, of course, honey!"
"Do you Medved?"

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Was there ever a point in time when Michael Medved wasn't a gigantic soppy douche?

He and his brother Harry helped codify bad movie love as an art form in the seventies with their (very funny if often sophomorically so) books The 50 Worst Films of All Time, The Golden Turkey Awards (and its later sequel) and The Hollywood Hall of Shame, which specifically looked at big budget bombs. To give you an idea of their impact, a poll in 50 Worst was reported and tallied up in Golden Turkey and the winner was Plan 9 From Outer Space, which at the time was the first real codification of that film and Wood himself as the ne plus ultra of bad movies. To a large extent, the cult started right there. There's next to nothing in the books which would indicate that Medved would first turn into a boring flack and then a self-righteous hard-ass conservative (and apparently his brother Harry has followed suit, alas). A real loss to populist film mania for its own sake.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ned, what have I told you about raining on my parade? My lovely rant is all deflated by your pesky facts now, GAWD.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

But I just thought the thing and the deal would be oh Dean I'm sorry wah wah wah < /Nutty Professor >

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hobbit fashion from italy

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

BEYOND CLASSIC

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

This is LONDON
15/01/04 - Fashion section

Long and short of it

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040114/capt.mil10501141644.italy_men_fashion_mil105.jpg

Italian fashion label Etro unveiled its own little and large show in Milan yesterday as two hirsute models hit the catwalk to show off its latest collection.

Sporting checked suits, the models looked more like they had stepped off the set of a Lord of the Rings film than the glamour fashion houses of Milan.

The Etro label was created in the 1960s and is characterized by a Paisley motif, which is its hallmark.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a reason Frodo and co stayed in those fashionable capris in all 3 films. Picturing the pride of THAT designer's mum: "All those years of schooling, all that cash spent on tuition, and you STILL don't know how to cut in a straight line?"

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Sad, really.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

He's bang-on (and i like LOTR). Every time one of these damn polls is done it comes top. It's become the Sgt.Peppers' of the book world.
Pride and Prejudice should have mashed it up good.

― pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't talking about the poll results!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And for Bombadil's sake Ned, hasn't LOTR had enough success/dissemination ? Why do you have to point out the few and ever-decreasing dissenting voices like they're heretics or something?
Will you only be happy when its completely taken over the earth?
Its huge succes and popularity is enough to quash any polite/anguished objections that might come from the world of acadaemia, you needn't worry there.

x-post

― pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Will you only be happy when its completely taken over the earth?

Hurrah! (Well, you have to start somewhere.) I'm more just surprised at the existence of a piece which functions as an attempt to fight a rear-guard action in the name of Edmund Wilson and modernism -- did literature stop for this guy in 1940 or something?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I saw this at last. It was good-ish, but not great. It felt like alot had been cut, and it was only 3 hours and 5 minutes (before the credits start), so they could have put some more things in. Didn't quite get why Frodo goes off at the end, I assume he has post-traumatic stress, and is finding it hard to adjust to life back in the Shire. There was way too much hobbit stuff really.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 18 January 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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