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Why can't things I drag onto the desktop appear where they are dragged? Why???

suggest taliban (libcrypt), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

For every problem I have with Linux I have at least three with Microsoft/Apple. This time itunes has decided to ignore my iphone. Reinstalling itunes AGAIN now.

punk is deady brewster (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

I checked on amazon for two games I hadn't played in awhile (Sims 2 + The Movies). The PC versions of the games cost about $14 new. The Mac versions? $40. Wtf?

Mordy, Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:08 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Mac gaming is awful like that. Really annoying, you look for what's available and they're like 75% three-year-old ports are full retail price, and those prices NEVER come down!

Nhex, Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:54 (seventeen years ago)

Why can't things I drag onto the desktop appear where they are dragged? Why???

Do you have "Arrange By Name" set to some value in the Desktop view options?

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

(sorry, I mean "Arrange By" )

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

No, I have no arrangement options set. I don't see the problem on single-display Macs, generally, but drag-to-desktop has pretty much always sucked on multiple-head configurations: Dragging from display 2 to display 1's desktop often results in an icon on desktop 2; dragging 2 -> 2 may result in an icon on display 1. Even if I can get it to land in the right desktop, it's usually placed there as if a new file were created w/o drag-&-drop.

Suggestbandium (libcrypt), Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

bizarre new macbook pro problem

pressing "eject" key doesn't eject CDs. they start to eject, stop, and then go back into the machine.

using the "eject" button on various applications, or dragging the CD into the dock for ejecting gets the CD to eject cleanly.

this is most pronounced when using itunes. 100% of the time it won't eject with the eject key, but will eject if i hit the eject button.

WTF is that?

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 02:32 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

How abused is your mac book pro? I have this issue and I put this down to the dents and bangs mine has received.

Ed, Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

okay.

$29.99 for a new ipod shuffle dock. a new ipod shuffle costs $49.99.

with the design of the dock, it is almost impossible to use the fucker without it breaking-- it got bent and then broke after being in my bag for a mere evening.

seriously.

the table is the table, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

You know, I can buy a fucking car and if it breaks, it usually doesn't cost the fucking cost of the car to fix it.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

i think i might just go to the store sometime this week and start yelling. does anyone know if this works?

the table is the table, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

A refurbished shuffle costs about as much as the dock itself. Worth a look?

punk is deady brewster (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

You can by non-apple shuffle USB cables for about five bucks.

Ed, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

I've been using this little USB plug for mine and it's been great. It looks like it costs $7 these days.

Euler, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

i think i might just go to the store sometime this week and start yelling. does anyone know if this works?

Be sure to begin your rant with HEY GENIUS.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

How abused is your mac book pro? I have this issue and I put this down to the dents and bangs mine has received.

not abused *that* badly. no visible dings, and it's only about a year old.

but the casing does *seem* to bend down there towards the CD slot, possibly because it's where i rest my wrist as i type?

i really want to try to pry it a little wider but i'm not sure what kind of tool could manage that without leaving marks. maybe a no.2 pencil?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

No, I have no arrangement options set. I don't see the problem on single-display Macs, generally, but drag-to-desktop has pretty much always sucked on multiple-head configurations: Dragging from display 2 to display 1's desktop often results in an icon on desktop 2; dragging 2 -> 2 may result in an icon on display 1. Even if I can get it to land in the right desktop, it's usually placed there as if a new file were created w/o drag-&-drop.

Yeah, this looks like a bug that's been around for a bit. Check out:
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=87866

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 2 March 2009 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

Euler, thanks for tip. will order asap. i miss music while on the bus.

the table is the table, Monday, 2 March 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

ne1 using safari 4 beta

homie bhabha (max), Monday, 2 March 2009 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

moonship, try slipping a business card or metrocard (metrocard works really well) through the slot so it rests on top of the CD, then hit eject. The metrocard should guide the CD out. This may fuck up your drive, it doesn't appear to have fucked mine up yet.

Ed, Monday, 2 March 2009 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

Safari 4 beta employs just about the least user-friendly browser interface I've ever seen. Gave up working out how to use it after three minutes.

punk is deady brewster (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:15 (seventeen years ago)

moonship, if it's only a year old they should repair it for you. i have had a CD stuck in my iMac for a week now. not only does it not eject but when i go into system profiler the computer no longer even recognises there's a disc drive in the computer even though i can hear it whirring on startup so it is powered.

"No burning device was found. If you are using an external device please make sure that it is connected and powered properly."

anyway i took it to the genius bar today and they are ordering me a new superdrive and installing it for free even though it is 2 months out of warranty. no complaints here. the genius guy was very resonable, informed and genuine.

jed_, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Feature creep, then? Will I like it more if I usually use Firefox?

kenan, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

nevermind, I'll just find out.

kenan, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

safari 4 seems just like safari 3 to me, but I'm no browser pro so maybe I dunno. It does put the tabs at the top which I guess makes some sense if you're thinking of your browser like a notebook.

Euler, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

Just a reminder to those who don't like tabs-on-top that you can fix it.

ergo almondnut (libcrypt), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 03:10 (seventeen years ago)

I've been using it since release day. The new tabs take getting used to, but overall it's great. Definitely very fast, and more stable than Safari 3 in my experience.

Customising the new Top Sites screen could be a little more intuitive — it took me a minute to figure out that the only way to add specific sites was to drag them in from another tab — but overall it's OK. I'm not a a fan of the new reload/stop widget though, and it would be nice to have the blue progress bar back in the address field. There will definitely be UI tweaks before it's out of beta.

Millsner, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:20 (seventeen years ago)

i no longer own the fastest most bad-ass mac pro on the planet. I knew this new one was coming but couldn't wait and got the last one over the summer. I've been pretty productive since then and figure it'll be at least 2 or 3 years if not more before I outgrow this one. I'm just mad I lose the bragging rights.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

safari 4 seems just like safari 3 to me, but I'm no browser pro so maybe I dunno

^ Yes, exactly. Like Safari 3 but a bit different. Seems cool enough. Like the built-in Inquisitor-style search thingy. Top Sites: will never use. Coverflow-style history thing is a nice enough gimmick.

and it would be nice to have the blue progress bar back in the address field

Apparently this can also be fixed with a simple enough hidden-preference edit ... can't remember where I read it, but I'd imagine Libcrypt's link would provide a good starting point. I thought I'd miss it a lot more than I do.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

i really like the new tab placement. doesnt seem like anything else is different so if youre having trouble figuring out how to use it... i dont know what to tell you

homie bhabha (max), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

I kind of love this browser. I don't know if it will pry me away from Firefox, but FF has so many problems on Mac (still!) that I'm always open to suggestion. This is a v good suggestion.

kenan, Friday, 6 March 2009 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

I think I will dl it over spring break, still hanging on from Mac Chrome as well.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

I took to "tabs on top" like a duck to water. It seems to make as much sense, and maybe more.

kenan, Friday, 6 March 2009 03:17 (seventeen years ago)

Firefox on Mac still loads too slow and has that annoying creeping memory bloat (better than FF2, but still a bit annoying), but my dozen+ extensions mean I'm pretty married to it until Chrome/Safari/Webkit gets a real plug-in system. I actually like the tabs on top of Safari 4 beta, though it definitely runs a little chunkier than 3 did.

Nhex, Friday, 6 March 2009 05:09 (seventeen years ago)

am i mistaken in thinking that everything in safari 4 is basically stolen from chrome?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:32 (seventeen years ago)

also i don't get "tabs on top" vs "tabs on bottom"

if tabs are for fast switching between pages, and your mouse is generally somewhere in the lower half of the screen, it makes sense that the tabs would be on the bottom, right?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:34 (seventeen years ago)

tabs on top gives you a little more real estate

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 8 March 2009 12:58 (seventeen years ago)

why would your mouse be in the lower half? All the other must-mouse stuff like the window buttons, the menus, the toolbar fields and buttons etc are at the top, so it makes sense to put the tabs next to all that.

stet, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

What pisses me off about it, is that it (understandably) has a difficulty in distinguishing between whether you want to click a tab, or whether you want to drag a window, so quite often it doesn't work, and then I click again and it registers a double click and minimises it. It's getting on my nerves. I really don't think it matters where they go.

Keith, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

I've closed a tab trying to bring a packed window to the front more than once, and there's no undo-close-tab, which is a pisser.

stet, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

click-through is a mess

We are all from Northampton now (caek), Sunday, 8 March 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

Arrrgh, why can I not put a reload button where it belongs to the left of the address bar, the fact that there is a non removable add bookmark where reload should be just adds insult to injury.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Sunday, 8 March 2009 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

...and there's no undo-close-tab, which is a pisser.

Looks like the Glims kids have been pretty quick on getting it working for Safari 4.

Alas, those pwns never came. (libcrypt), Sunday, 8 March 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

why would your mouse be in the lower half? All the other must-mouse stuff like the window buttons, the menus, the toolbar fields and buttons etc are at the top, so it makes sense to put the tabs next to all that.

#1 - clicking around in the browser window?!? "submit post" or navigating web pages, etc. if your mouse is up by the toolbar field most of the time how do you even use the internet?!?

#2 - this is embarrassing, but i actually "read" with the mouse ... i drag it along past whatever i'm reading like a finger on a page.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

i *love* the "top sites", btw, because 90% of my internet time is on six or so sites - the dashboard for my class blog, my web-based gradebook and attendance system, my webmail, my online banking and ILX.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

I bought an iPhone today. Now how the hell do I use it?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

#2 - this is embarrassing, but i actually "read" with the mouse ... i drag it along past whatever i'm reading like a finger on a page

Not embarrassing at all. I do that all the time when I'm editing stuff at work, certainly. It's become an automatic thing when I'm reading closely on a screen.

I'm trying to monitor where my mouse pointer spends most of its time. So far it's very much "in the bottom half of the screen". Still, I think the Safari 4 tabs rock bells, so hey.

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

Put yr finger in the hole with the first digit you need to dial, then turn it around like you were screwing on the top of a jar. Then do the same with the next digit, and so on until you ring up yr party. Put yr head next to the gadget and then talk!

Alas, those pwns never came. (libcrypt), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

Many a true word ...

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

yeah I like top sites because it confronts me with the reality of my time-wasting. Sometimes I actually look at all the little thumbnails and say "no, nothing valuable is going to happen here."

lucked up (lukas), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)


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