That Nation article has ruined my life
For the past decade attitudes to nuclear power has been a pretty good litmus test for whether environmentalists appreciate the magnitude of the problem
Or perhaps their ability to see that replacing one massive problem caused by unforseen consequences with another massive problem with already well known and unsolveable awful consequences is not necessarily a great idea
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 20 December 2013 05:17 (twelve years ago)
I can't really recommend the James Lovelock books, unless you are a fan of fatalism.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite
― Mordy , Friday, 20 December 2013 05:28 (twelve years ago)
Canada's carbon emissions projected to soar by 2030
Canada's carbon emissions will soar 38% by 2030 mainly due to expanding tar sands projects, according to the government's own projections.In a new report to the United Nations, the Harper administration says it expects emissions of 815million tonnes of CO2 in 2030, up from 590Mt in 1990. Emissions from the fast-growing tar sands sector is projected to quadruple between 2005 and 2030, reaching 137Mt a year, more than Belgium and many other countries, the report shows.
In a new report to the United Nations, the Harper administration says it expects emissions of 815million tonnes of CO2 in 2030, up from 590Mt in 1990. Emissions from the fast-growing tar sands sector is projected to quadruple between 2005 and 2030, reaching 137Mt a year, more than Belgium and many other countries, the report shows.
you know what we should do in the US? expand our pipeline capacity from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico so that tar sand companies can produce and sell more! not only will this allow oil refined from tar sands to reach the rest of the world, but it will also create nearly a dozen permanent jobs!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 14:09 (twelve years ago)
we can call it keystone and then argue about it like pathetic pieces of shit while the world burns
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 14:10 (twelve years ago)
i'm sorry, 35 permanent jobs, not 12. i misspoke and i apologize to the families of the 35 people who could get permanent jobs if (when) the pipeline is approved
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 14:14 (twelve years ago)
sorry, one of those mornings
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 14:42 (twelve years ago)
Interesting article on how sea-level rise is impacting the East coast:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/science/earth/grappling-with-sea-level-rise-sooner-not-later.html
― o. nate, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 14:48 (twelve years ago)
Magnitude of three -- THREE! -- tsk tsk.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 16:21 (twelve years ago)
that FB-bait jpg weather map showing the entire country struck by cold while California is summarized by 'LOL' -- I don't think it was written by a Californian because everyone I know is more than a little nervous.
http://unofficialnetworks.com/nasa-shows-bad-california-drought-127886/http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/01/12/high-fire-and-wind-warnings-posted-for-southern-california/
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 21:36 (twelve years ago)
wish I could find the Earth First "We're All Gonna Die" image with the hot water heater warning picture
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 21:51 (twelve years ago)
Some forensic meteorology on the drought out here: http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_24904396/california-drought-whats-causing-it
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 January 2014 05:57 (twelve years ago)
NYT reports on (a more recent) leaked version of the next IPCC report: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/17/science/earth/un-says-lag-in-confronting-climate-woes-will-be-costly.html
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 January 2014 16:36 (twelve years ago)
i just take it as a given that i will have to commit suicide in a few decades when the earth's resources are spent and all of our crops die and civilization descends into chaos
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:29 (twelve years ago)
at least my beloved older relatives won't have to experience that scenario
A few decades? That's optimistic
― displayed in brackets (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:35 (twelve years ago)
Just try not to water your lawn, wash your car, bathe, drink, cook or grow crops in 2014:
http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/images/low_resolution/620x350x1483v1_20140113_20130113-SNsnowpack.png.pagespeed.ic.ep72B8IFzI.jpg
― pon decor (Sanpaku), Friday, 17 January 2014 00:10 (twelve years ago)
Bloody hell, has there been an El Niño / La Niña reverse this year?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 17 January 2014 00:39 (twelve years ago)
Kinda hard to see because of the cloud cover, but the difference in greenery is appalling.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:02 (twelve years ago)
That's snow!
― Karl Malone, Friday, 17 January 2014 01:03 (twelve years ago)
What?
/californian
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:04 (twelve years ago)
Some of that in 2013 is clouds, it doesn't snow in the San Juaquin Valley. I also think that picture exagerates the problem in that the earlier one was probably taken after a major system went through and dusted the ground with a lot of snow that later surely melted away. All the snow in the Nevada flatlands doesn't persist, I don't think.
(/climate change denier)
― nickn, Friday, 17 January 2014 01:25 (twelve years ago)
So far, precipitation since October in the Northern Sierras and Southern Sierras is on track with the 1923-24 and 1976-77, the two driest years on record. Reservoir storage is only 65% of average.
So the snow blanketing the Great Basin in the 2013 shot is a bit misleading, but the parched Central Valley doesn't lie.
In other news, Paolo Bacigalupi, my favorite science fiction author engaging climate change issues, has a new novel The Water Knife to be released February 14th (in the UK, at least). Its set in the same world of Colorado basin water woes as his short story "The Tamarisk Hunter" (full text).
― pon decor (Sanpaku), Friday, 17 January 2014 02:29 (twelve years ago)
I'm not really a denier, just thought the two pictures were a little misleading.
LA Times article on the drought
― nickn, Friday, 17 January 2014 06:50 (twelve years ago)
enviro biggies bail on "all of the above"
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/17/you_cant_have_it_both_ways_green_groups_break_with_obama_over_hypocritical_climate_policy/
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2014 15:38 (twelve years ago)
they should've put the pressure on back in 2011, after the climate bill failed, and before the 2012 election. obama has always treated environmentalists as just another political constituency to pay lip service to (i know, big surprise), he doesn't actually give a shit about the environment (another big surprise). so they should have exerted more pressure on him back he might have actually paid attention. what does he care now what they say?
― Karl Malone, Friday, 17 January 2014 16:03 (twelve years ago)
this way they still get to sell tote bags and t shirts to 'mainstream' Dems
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2014 16:06 (twelve years ago)
Earth had another top-ten hottest year on record in 2013, which ranked as the 4th warmest year since records began in 1880, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center said today. NASA rated 2013 as the 7th warmest on record. The disagreement between the two data sets is minor, since the 2013 numbers were within 3% of each other. Including 2013, nine out of ten of the warmest years in the 134-year period of record have occurred during the 21st century (2001–2013). Only one year during the 20th century--1998--was warmer than 2013. Global land temperatures were the 4th warmest on record during 2013, and ocean temperatures were the 8th warmest. Global satellite-measured temperatures in the lower atmosphere were the 4th or 9th warmest in the 35-year record, according to UAH and RSS, respectively. Following the two wettest years on record (2010 and 2011), 2013 joined 2012 as having near-average precipitation on balance across the globe.
http://icons.wxug.com/hurricane/2014/2013temps.gif
http://icons.wxug.com/hurricane/2014/noaa-nasa-2013.jpg
http://icons.wxug.com/hurricane/2014/global-temps-1880-2013.png
it's ok, we can always shoot millions of tons of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to save us at the last minute, right. exxon for mvp
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 02:43 (twelve years ago)
Jesus, we're all going to die.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 03:17 (twelve years ago)
yes. yes we are.
― just (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 03:36 (twelve years ago)
oh sorry you were talking to jesus.
Of course we're all going to die.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 04:15 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/JFnOa2K.gif
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 04:29 (twelve years ago)
50 is ok by me, all downhill from there anyway.
― just (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 04:33 (twelve years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/24/science/earth/threat-to-bottom-line-spurs-action-on-climate.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0
lol coca-cola's profits are flagging because it is too hard to get WATER
so they're gettin -srs-
― j., Friday, 24 January 2014 02:52 (twelve years ago)
it was a pleasure knowing you, gents.
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Friday, 24 January 2014 03:37 (twelve years ago)
Nice to see that a small fraction of megacorps are paying attention now that the effects of GHG emissions up to 1984 are becoming apparent. The problem is that the GHG emissions of today won't become fully apparent until 2044 (~30 year lag)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 24 January 2014 03:50 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSjwAu3yrI
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 January 2014 10:41 (twelve years ago)
Greetings from the barren drought-ridden wasteland of Southern California. Thirsty ILX travelers welcome, just tip me some Dogecoin on your way through.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 January 2014 10:45 (twelve years ago)
I'm RICH!http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/121/4/d/nuka_cola_bottle_caps_by_chanced1-d3fcj9g.jpg
― His magesty's satanic walnut farm (Sanpaku), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:14 (twelve years ago)
Welcome to my life.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:23 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/30/flooding-experts-uk-adapt-climate-change
― Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:01 (twelve years ago)
"It is the only sensible policy – it makes no sense to defend the indefensible."
is this guy an ilxor?
― bilbo bobbins (how's life), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:05 (twelve years ago)
iirc ilxors love defending the indefensible
― sleeve, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:09 (twelve years ago)
Managed retreat has been accepted as inevitable by most geographers for a decade, I think. The coastline wouldn't really be defensible even if sea levels weren't rising, it would be daft to think they could be defensible now. When you have flooding or serious erosion it's not politically astute to say 'sorry, nothing we can do' though.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:12 (twelve years ago)
Amid drought, California says it won't allot water to local agencies
― disposable soma (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 23:12 (twelve years ago)
Encouraging, at least.
eople working on the regulation say that White House officials regularly remind them of its urgency. One person even described White House “nagging” — a notable reversal for an administration that slowed down controversial environmental regulations during the 2012 presidential campaign.
Writing the new rule is legally complicated. Although the environmental agency has the authority to issue the regulation, Mr. Goffman and his lawyers will have to employ a rarely used portion of the Clean Air Act that was not specifically written to address climate change.
They could devise a legally cautious rule that has little environmental impact, or they could write an aggressive regulation that would slash emissions but be legally vulnerable.
“The legal interpretation is challenging,” said an E.P.A. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “This effectively hasn’t been done.”
The agency’s task is further complicated by Mr. Obama’s tight timeline, intended to complete as much of the regulatory process as possible by the end of his term in early 2017. After the release of the draft in June, the president wants a final version by June 2015. By June 2016, states must submit plans for carrying it out — a challenge for state environmental agencies, which typically have two to three years to write major new regulations.
“It will be a heavy lift,” said Scott Nally, who last month stepped down as Ohio’s top environmental official. In December, Mr. Nally met with environmental agency officials in Washington for a five-and-a-half-hour session aimed at hashing out details of the rule — particularly how states could meet the schedule.
“We rolled up our sleeves,” Mr. Nally said. “We started with coffee and finished with coffee.”
The timeline is also delicate politically. The draft regulation will come out just months before the 2014 midterm elections, when Republican campaigns plan to reignite charges that Democrats are waging a “war on coal.”
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2014 03:13 (twelve years ago)
http://libcom.org/blog/whos-afraid-ruins-18022014
― j., Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:48 (twelve years ago)
I enjoyed that! But we've already established I'm a sucker for worst case scenarios. I'm not sure the optimistic stuff about rebuilding makes sense though. Disaster communism lasts exactly as long as it takes for someone to find the right levers to put themselves in charge.
― poor fishless bastard (Zora), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 13:29 (twelve years ago)
wow, i used to think that maybe one possible redeeming quality of john mccain was that he slightly cared about climate change (he co-sponsored one of the most promising bills on it several years ago), but then i remember that he says things like this:
When John Kerry said earlier this week that climate change is one of the world's most pressing problems, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was left wondering if he and the secretary of state are on the same planet.McCain said Tuesday that in light of recent diplomatic efforts by the United States, Kerry shouldn't be focused on the environment.“Why should he talk about climate change when we’ve got a 130,000 people in Syria killed, and, as I predicted on this show many times, the whole Geneva thing was a fiasco, when the Iran-U.S. talks are obviously a joke, and the Palestinian-Israeli negotiations haven’t even begun,” McCain told host Mike Broomhead on Phoenix radio station KFYI."You know John Kerry and the President, they could be hitting the trifecta here."McCain expressed disbelief that Kerry used a recent visit to Indonesia to address climate change."Hello? On what planet does he reside?" McCain said.Kerry said Sunday that climate change is the world's "most fearsome" weapon. He also compared climate changer-deniers to members of the Flat Earth Society.Those remarks prompted former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to call for Kerry's resignation.
McCain said Tuesday that in light of recent diplomatic efforts by the United States, Kerry shouldn't be focused on the environment.
“Why should he talk about climate change when we’ve got a 130,000 people in Syria killed, and, as I predicted on this show many times, the whole Geneva thing was a fiasco, when the Iran-U.S. talks are obviously a joke, and the Palestinian-Israeli negotiations haven’t even begun,” McCain told host Mike Broomhead on Phoenix radio station KFYI.
"You know John Kerry and the President, they could be hitting the trifecta here."
McCain expressed disbelief that Kerry used a recent visit to Indonesia to address climate change.
"Hello? On what planet does he reside?" McCain said.
Kerry said Sunday that climate change is the world's "most fearsome" weapon. He also compared climate changer-deniers to members of the Flat Earth Society.
Those remarks prompted former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to call for Kerry's resignation.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 14:30 (twelve years ago)
O_o -_- >_<
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 14:40 (twelve years ago)