the ppl with whom you interact outside ilx...

ilx is on probably on average older, posher & more international than irl friends

idek what the people i interact with on ilx are like

Ha look i can only think of so many options for a quick poll tbf

how about "not like, its neither a good or bad thing, people are people"

I spose in effect thats a null vote but ill accept the write in

It seems like these days, there's a large group of people "on ILX" (possibly even the bulk of them, though I do not know at what point this shifted) who have never met another ILX0r in the flesh.

not at all sure this is the case tbh? I mean depends how you define 'large group' here but I'm someone who's never met any of you folks as a result of you posting here and I always feel like a clandestine weirdo and v much in a minority in this respect

even i've met a couple of ilxors and i live in Hull ffs

tbf they seem to have gone off the internet lately

I would say "the vast majority" actually.

Well, in the early days, when ILX was based on distinct geographical clusters of people who already knew each other IRL or in other internet spaces, I think it was the case that "people who had never met another ILX0r" were a rarity. But if memory serves, the last poll that was done, people who had never met another ILX0r were a substantial group? "Large group" for my statistical purposes being "over 1/3" or so. I just can't remember the name of the poll to search for it.

It was a rarity to "never meet another ILX0r" when ILX was substantially or even predominantly British because, seriously, our island is tiny. But now ILX is predominantly American, their distances are substantially greater.

(It wasn't even just Britishers, it was clusters of people like the Dunedin crew, who all knew or got to know each other IRL.)

surprised at least one sheepfuxor hasnt knocked on the door of each ilxors house looking for food tbh, this at least has been my experience

ILX was more based around geographical clusters that served as social groups but those dissipated as people left the boards and those friendships evolved to the level that people didn't need a message board to facilitate hanging out, or they just drifted apart in time.

I don't think it was a rarity at all to have never met another ILXer because there was always a sizeable long tail of people who lived in areas in which there WERE no other ILXers, it's just they were less noticeable.

The thread question itself is pretty dumb but most of my non-board friends are people I can imagine posting to ILX, if only because virtually EVERYONE posts to the internet now, even if it's just Facebook, and you can discern a lot from these posts.

Plus I have entire groups of friends who have never posted to ILX but I would not have met were it not for having met certain people here first. There was a point about four or five years ago when that constituted a lot of my social life.

TBH I can imagine a lot of my original school/university friends posting here as well these days. ILX is a more diverse pool of people, even now, than threads like this suggest.

although most of my irl friends are superior human beings to me in pretty much every meaningful respect, if they signed up to ilx and started enthusiastically weighing in I fear they would go directly to the 'valuable new posters' repository

NB in saying this I am not casting myself as a valuable poster

Haha when you put it that way...

it's weird, vast swathes of people i know irl or that i went to school with seem to have no internet presence to speak of

... you missed out "Thank God"

well yeah mostly i guess but i prefer to keep people at an e-distance i think [/banaka]

not e-distance, the opposite.

none of my pub cronies are very ilxy

Voted option 2, 'cuz variety is the spice of life etc

I have met one ilxor irl but we have never interacted on here

Anyway I vote with mark g

Most of my friends are not very ILXy, some are a little ILXy, one or two would fit right in.

Main points of non-ILXiness:
1. less likely to care about music (bad-ish I guess but I've never got on well with most music geeks offline);
2. less likely to bust out crit-theoretical whatevering (good for ignorant old me);
3. the men (both friends and certain of the coworkers) are more likely to say something outrageously reddity abt women and then be all "pshh, bitches can't take a joke" or "O MY HUMAN RIGHTS" if I call them out on it (sigh).

I guess on average that's "not like, bad", because 3 really really pisses me off.

Working in HE basically gives you access to geeks and weirdos as much as hanging out on ILX does, though.

ha ha otm but my HE geeks and weirdos are all librarians and computer programmers and library-computer-programmers so yeah, one of those just might be where the reddit tendencies come in

ILX fills a different need than my IRL interactions. For whatever reason, a large number of my IRL peeps have next to no online presence.

most ppl on ilx are less ilx like irl ime

that was fun to type

2. less likely to bust out crit-theoretical whatevering (good for ignorant old me);

Yah, no one I know outside of ilx ever name-drops Adorno.

As a grad student in English Language and Literature, this has so not been the case for me over the last year.

Don't think I would really wanna know ilx-type people mostly (or at least people who acted in real life like people act on ilx), but I have to admit it would be fun to meet some who talked about music in the same way as you lot do. Sometimes I'll say something e.g. at a party that would be completely innocuous here and everyone will look at me as if I'm as mad as Mark E Smith. Everyone I know irl is pretty much indie - 95% of them think e.g. Arcade Fire are the bee's knees etc. and totally accept the indie canon. It is very disorienting.

ways in which my irl friends differ: younger, less informed or attuned to things going on (by which i mean i rarely talk to ppl irl about "current affairs," tends to be more day-to-day anecdotal shit, but that may have more to do with ilx being more impersonal & on the internet where discussions have to be justified by threads with like topics,) much less fussy and moral or likely to express indignation (tone of ilx is more often somewhere between "can you believe this shit?"/"i can't believe this shit!") less into narcisissms of small differences, taking positions less distanced or, like "meta-" from issues? i feel like ppl on ilx are often very careful to position themselves at a calculated remove from anything they talk about? irl people are much more reckless i find, more bold maybe? everything on ilx seems heavily qualified is maybe what i'm trying to say. trying to think of others... honestly though not that different. like in terms of musical tastes i can pick an ilx analogue for each one of my friends,' i would say that maybe 3 years ago "more rockist" would be a shoe-in but not so anymore at all really

Great answer imo

It seems like these days, there's a large group of people "on ILX" (possibly even the bulk of them, though I do not know at what point this shifted) who have never met another ILX0r in the flesh.

I doubt that it was ever significantly the case that the bulk of posters on ILX had met another ILX0r irl, not beyond the first few months or so of the site. There's a lot of geographical distance covered by the userbase here, and a huge number of citydwellers who are 100% uninterested in meeting other ILX folk in their own towns.

darragh conflating mongrels with sheepfux0rs btw, tch

chalk it up to my account theres a good chap

had a multi-person conversation with coworkers over lunch including one coworker citing all these incidents where little old ladies had defended themselves with handguns, complete with snopes-bait anecdotes

;_;

I didn't vote, I don't rate irl people any better or worse than ILX, in fact the only difference is that irl there is the question of "who pays for lunch".

i sometimes wish my irl friends were more like ilxors but i wouldn't say it's a 'bad thing' that they're not. they're mostly more 'stereotypical' nerds i.e. into gaming, tech stuff, etc rather than music/art

if I was able to so easily categorize the people I interact with my world would be a dull fucking place

― dan m, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 04:05 (15 hours ago)

yeah

think deems is saying that he finds the gap between people from say rural ireland and urban america or england particularly schismatic but for most people from those places the differences between ilx/the world around them aren't going to be nearly so pronounced

i find the ppl from the frum community of philadelphia to be pretty different from the ppl of ilx, tho i always enjoy the vertigo of going from the most left-wing person in the room to the most right-wing person in the [thread] room. i can't imagine i'm alone in that particular shift from rl to virtual life.

A good portion of my IRL friends are here anyway, so they act them same.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

xp nakh tbs tbs there's that (tho obv all wites == obv) but ive tasted city life and a couple colleges now and middle class approaches most of my friends and my irl set prob vary across a decent spectrum as it goes- none as far left as far ilx left admittedly and further right by a long way than yr usual ilx suspects (self included- as mordy says it's a nice jump bytimes to login and switch sides) but come come we can all answer or not to the dividers as we see them, with apologies for the failures in option that ive already acknowledged.

a lot of people will vote 'not like' because they come to ilx to post about music or other cultural products that are not a common interest in any natural demographic, so you get a sort of narc of sd effect even though educated urban americans who like mnml synth and chillwave are probably not intrinsically that different from those who don't know what a chillwave is

confession wtf is a chillwave

Fair point tho

voted 'like', 'good' because ilx was my only healthy socializing outlet as a young adult (kinda fucked up but i wouldn't take it back), and i've learned a lot about the kind of person i like/want to be (and don't want to be) by posting on here. i've gravitated toward more of those people irl and they currently outnumber 'old irl' acquaintances.

bad side is i can feel awkward when trying to make new friends in real space but that's just a technical hurdle i guess you could say.

a lot of people will vote 'not like' because they come to ilx to post about music or other cultural products that are not a common interest in any natural demographic

really?

I guess the main difference I see between ilx ppl and my IRL ppl is that the ilx ppl are more normal in terms of their habits and lifestyles -- e.g. dishwasher ownership, not going out to shows very often. Granted I ended up here because a couple of IRL pals were ilxors, and since then I've had an ilx roommate and a bff who is also an ilxor, and I keep finding out that various IRL friends are lurkers, which is odd

ilm versus rest of ilx there, though -- I think ilm in general goes to a fair number of shows, but probably not as many as your people because they're kind of locked into a scene?

how many lurkers are there here? i would think it was so weird if anyone imrl knew about ilxor, there are like 4000 posters and all of y'all live in ny or london or wherever

Not all my ppl are in the same scene though.

you ran a poll for two days and got 68 votes - seems like some people may have changed their mind in the interim

Weak argument imo you'd need to run a 2 day poll with similar turnout supporting yr assumption in order to get floortime

Count yrself lucky if this random thread revive is hurting u btw the other promising option on the page was the one about summary execution of child molesters

Spoiler, that one was not #sorted

do the opinions vary much between the generic death penalty pro/con thread and the summary execution of child molesters pro/con thread?

No

In fact the worst part of the thread is the confirmed anti death penalty posters coming in to give the uninteresting and unhelpful answer that had already been noted against their names at a higher phase of discovery

"I'm against the death penalty in all circumstances so even in a case wher-" "Fuck off"

Would mix with them irl tho obv top chaps

ah

back when ppl interacted with others on ilx

It's a mix of all four tbh.

yes ive addressed that and many other concerns upthread