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gah i should be studying for my analysis exam... blegh

flopson, Sunday, 15 December 2013 06:03 (twelve years ago)

which 2 should i take next semester out of these 4

real analysis 4 (measure theory, functional analysis)
differential geometry
topics in geometry & topology course on cube c0mplexes
discrete mathematics of paul erdos (taught by the great vasec chv4tal http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~chvatal/6621/)

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)

real and discrete OR differential and cube complexes

the late great, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)

i sort of hated analysis 3 but while studying for it and memorizing all those theorems i became really impressed with it and now have the urge to take the 4th. also i've heard measure theory is one of those things you've just *got* to learn and this guy would teach it properly

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)

interesting, why those 2 diff pairings?

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)

(xp)

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)

i've always had better luck in school when i take courses with some connection to each other rather than courses which have different approaches

although ... is real analysis useful in differential geometry?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

yes

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

pairing of most similar would be cubes + discrete, diff geo + ana

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

oh okay. that's what i'd do then.

(higher math n00b)

the late great, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)

cube complexes was developed by algebraic topologists & geometric group theorists, people who exploit an analogy (functor or whatever) between topological spaces, infinite groups, and cayley graphs of infinite groups, to prove results in group theory & 3-manifold theory. so graph theory would come up

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:59 (twelve years ago)

the simplest vers of diff geo is, like, in multivariable calculus taking a surface integral

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:59 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's about as far as i got in geometry

the late great, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)

that article i posted upthread goes into the CC stuff, with some quotes by dude who is teaching the course (and is like world champion of cube complexes)

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)

yeah i read it but my head started to spin halfway through and i definitely got real confused around when the cube complexes came in

the late great, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:04 (twelve years ago)

word

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

2 much cool math

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)

How can you not take Erdos class?

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

i know, right

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)

Students who will make significant progress towards the solution of any open problem on the list posted here will get the grade of A+ regardless of their numerical score.

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)

This is kind of old news, but I enjoyed this article. I never tire of these kinds of stories about unknown mathematicians toiling on hard problems in obscurity for years and then reaching a breakthrough, plus it does a good job of explaining the topic in layman's terms:

https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130519-unheralded-mathematician-bridges-the-prime-gap/

o. nate, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:29 (twelve years ago)

yeah that one's great

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:32 (twelve years ago)

there was a great slate article where they explained why twin primes conjecture is an obvious conjecture (because primes behave *as if* they are randomly distributed, even though they're not)

flopson, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)

this interview with the guy is awesome http://nautil.us/issue/5/fame/the-twin-prime-hero

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 22:22 (twelve years ago)

I am working on a problem related to the Goldbach conjecture.

TIL

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)

flopson: what courses did you end up registering for? Real Analysis 4, I hope. :-)

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)

i have until third week of the semester, probably gonna feel it out. not sure if ana will work out though, it's a pretty heavy workload

flopson, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:25 (twelve years ago)

you like analysis?

flopson, Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

One of the songs on Fade I don't care for, but the math is very good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IwA9IimYSc

clemenza, Monday, 23 December 2013 13:40 (twelve years ago)

http://www.cut-the-knot.org/

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 02:29 (twelve years ago)

Reminds me I need to change my screenname.

The Cantor Dust Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)

HI DERE

The Cantor Dust Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

merry xmas math nerds

flopson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 05:05 (twelve years ago)

^ let xmas be any holiday

j., Thursday, 26 December 2013 05:15 (twelve years ago)

man this thread needs some actual words in its title

i cracked open a graph theory book, been doing some problems to relax

i realized that when i tried to 'write math', i automatically write a symbol (kind of a backward epsilon, though it was never quite that before when i used it) for 'such that'—which i/we NEVER do now when writing logic.

what is wrong with logicians?! why don't they write it? ('logically unnecessary', prob.)

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 04:14 (twelve years ago)

do you mean existential quantification? as in ∃ x. x > 5 ?

You need it in higher order logic obv, but it tends to be implicit in first order logics.

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 5 January 2014 05:27 (twelve years ago)

yes, i mean after the quantifier and before the statement of the condition involving the bound variable

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 05:32 (twelve years ago)

ah, as opposed to just the dot?

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 5 January 2014 05:44 (twelve years ago)

yeah; we certainly never used dots in any of the informal math style/notation i learned. backwards 'epsilons' or words.

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 05:52 (twelve years ago)

maybe it's because logicians tend to be writing formulas after quantifiers which they just intend to be satisfied by values for the relevant quantified variables,

whereas a mathematician writing down an existential quantifier usually intends the subsequent conditions to say something meaningful about the 'x' (etc.) whose existence is being asserted (usually in terms of some conditions stated initially, or a principle or theorem etc.), so that he reaches for a piece of notation that emphasizes the subordination of the condition to the existential quantifier.

(i find that when i'm writing math, i will even put in a comma after a universal quantifier, for somewhat analogous reasons maybe)

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 05:58 (twelve years ago)

do you mean '∍' ? I think that it might have to do with set theoretic roots there. You can read it as there exists an x drawn from the set of 'x > 5' for example. But if you're working without a set-theoretic model in mind then its terribly confusing. or if you have exists x ∍ R, then that's more like giving a 'type' than a condition -- x drawn from the reals.

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 5 January 2014 06:27 (twelve years ago)

i do mean that, but in concert with a membership epsilon, and w/in the general background of a naive set theory (the 'jargon of mathematicians' kind)

so it may be e.g. there exists x epsilon R backwards-epsilon x > 5

j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 06:35 (twelve years ago)

I wasn’t familiar with ∋ in a set-theoretic context. Nonetheless, Wikipedia’s article on Elements: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_(mathematics) mentions it:

Another possible notation for [x ∈ A] is:

A ∋ x

meaning “A contains x”, though it is used less often.

I assumed you were talking about the traditional notation for “such that.” Most contemporary mathematicians, however, use a semicolon.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 6 January 2014 03:38 (twelve years ago)

The relevant Unicode code point: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/220b/index.htm

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 6 January 2014 03:39 (twelve years ago)

contemporary my ass

j., Monday, 6 January 2014 03:42 (twelve years ago)

contemporary my ass

http://thuginpastels.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/grandpa-simpson.jpg

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 6 January 2014 14:17 (twelve years ago)

so they made you chair and you think that means you know about math huh well sonny let me tell you in my department chair was merely an administrative position

j., Monday, 6 January 2014 17:16 (twelve years ago)

giving a talk at a conference on saturday

flopson, Thursday, 9 January 2014 03:22 (twelve years ago)

undergrad conference, and it's just exposition. but im still pretty psyched

flopson, Thursday, 9 January 2014 03:22 (twelve years ago)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/01/17/infinite_series_when_the_sum_of_all_positive_integers_is_a_small_negative.html

i didn't realize that the clickbait function was unbounded on some intervals, but this seems to be fairly strong proof

j., Friday, 17 January 2014 19:53 (twelve years ago)


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