How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

And don't even get me started on this pudge monster:
http://www.wiredmomma.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/godzilla.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/slq3w3Sl.jpg

Does this Godzilla seem even more giant than previous Godzillas? And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?

Monsters is a great, great movie. So I'm looking forward to this on that alone.

And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?

Probably not. As I vaguely recall from my biology and physics, if you double the size of something, its muscle strength squares, but its volume/mass cubes, so the muscles are no longer strong enough to support the body (this is why insects/spiders don't come in sizes bigger than they currently do--if they got much bigger their exoskeleton weighs more than their limbs can support). Given the vaguely humanoid sjhape of Godzilla, he'd be fucked.

But yeah, Monsters was wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpc53FvcZ4c

hahaha

that trailer looks amazing up top. never saw the 1998 one. i'm guessing it wasn't much good?

You guess correct. It's not even bad in a fun way.

the way the 98 one bombed was wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu85WQTPRc

If you would have told me back in, say 2001, that we'd have another Godzilla reboot starring Malcolm's dad and the Olsen's twins kid sister...

this looks great.

Looks surprisingly good.

Like the use of Ligeti. Hoping this turns out to be a Rise of the Apes-style classy update.

Interest building....

Does Godzilla make airplanes fall out of the sky or something?

why does the statue of liberty look so fake

did you see the desert mountains in the background

i know it was going for a way different vibe, but i hope this can provide the monster-destroying-city action that Pacific Rim was woefully short on.

commercial's great, that's for sure. better to only hint at the monster (like with the rising ocean), or show it for a second or two.

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

looks great. don't know why but remakes of franchise movies like this bother me so much less than remakes of stand alone films (point break ,oldboy etc)

I like they they've kept him tied (it seems) to the post-WW2 nuclear age.

yeah, is that vegas?

idk, i'm in. why not? monsters was really good, good cast here.

not sure the other "viral" marketing video they've released -- the godzilla "roar" -- is as effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0T3VwHzk8

meh. the "roar" video wouldn't, of course, get the rare "5 out of 5 schmoes" that the official trailer did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyThBpoR1o

So, is there much talk of what this will be about ? Trailer implies Godzilla vs something ... some flying thing? Some tentacle thing? Both?

Weird how poor some of the effects look in the trailer (such as the wave carrying ships towards the camera) but I guess this is something they'll be rendering till just before release. Can't say I'm excited, but this did make me curious about a movie I until now assumed I wouldn't watch. The opening shots were good (corked traffic & crashed plane; tumbling buildings & origami birds)

Actually, went back now and it does seems to be some avian creature. There's a shot at 1:30 of guys aiming their guns up at a large, descending silhouette, then a shot of something — presumably the same thing — slipping into the ocean between a couple of crashing airplanes.

i liked the wave!

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:31 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha well i'd argue it doesnt hold true at all for daikaiju films... but this is just advertising and it looks like a good approach for what they're doing

i laughed (in a good way) at the line that was like 'the nuclear tests from 1954... they weren't tests, they were trying to kill it!!!'

Is that Ligetti music the same as the one in 2001.. i'm sure it is? Also a quick flash of Geiger/Alien vibes at 1 point.

yes

This looks really cool

Usually my rule of thumb is the cooler the trailer looks, the more disappointing the final film will be. But as long as they keep a lot of the surprises under wraps, and as long as what we see looks, visually, like something the guy who did "Monsters" did - which this does - I'm happy. Mentioned it upthread and will mention it again, but what made "Monsters" special (imo) is how well-written and acted the people stuff was, especially for a movie called "Monsters." Looking forward to seeing the guy pull it off again on a much larger scale.

Really hope those miniature Mothra twins make a cameo

This actually looks kinda okay! Reasonably sold on it as a 'terrifying beast smashes things' movie, and I think I saw Maggie Gyllenhaal in there so I'm in.

It'd be great if it had a strong 'idea' hook too - I mean it's obvious but the original Gojira from the Fifties was actually a, like, good movie (some slow talky scenes aside) with all kinds of resonances in post-Occupation Japan - the trauma of bomb devastation re-enacted, the useless government, the shaky faith in technical progress, an attempt to rehabilitate doomsday weapons by binding them with old-school honor/guilt, etc.... Obviously it'd be easy to do this as 9/11 stuff but frankly that's been done to death in the genre of building-destruction porn and anyway it's been a while, they should find some new anxieties to really tap into. Global warming/wild weather stuff, maybe. I guess that's why I really like the 'mostly smoke' aspect of this, seems less about wrenching every last drop of suppressed sublimation out of the WTC attacks. Could be quickly proven wrong obv. But it would be cool if this touched some nerves.

There was a lot of metaphor and whatnot swimming around "Monsters," too, but I don't want to spoil that movie for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

did you see the desert mountains in the background
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass)

It would be awesome of Godzilla is not as big as the posters make it seem, and that it's just him destroying Vegas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uuIVn5cq5U

It seems really strange to recycle that Ligetti piece ... its association with 2001 is so strong

maybe the assumption is that no one seeing a Godzilla movie in 2014 is old enough to have seen 2001?

I'm pretty sure they just picked it because it sounds cool. Trailers use music from other movies all the time. Original scores are rarely done until fairly close to release.

key target audience of godzilla in 2014 was BORN in 2001
**mind blown**

I'd rather they reuse Ligetti than the damn airhorn noise from "Inception." Again.

iirc the Ligeti and other classical pieces in 2001 were originally temporary music, Kubrick kept them in after he decided he hated Alex North's score

too bad Kubrick never directed a Godzilla reboot

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

The casting of this film is so incongruous for a hollywood blockbuster that I love it. I mean Juliette Binoche, Sally Hawkins, and Martha Marcy May Olsen are like an art house goddess triumvirate. "Monsters" was an ace scifi that cost famously all of $500,000. This is Edward's only other gig and was reportedly made for $160 million. how the hell does that happen? Especially after the dreck that was the 1998 film.

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

I love love love that you went with "nine times huger" instead of ten. Seriously awesome.

i don't recall the last time everyone on ilx got psyched for a blockbuster type movie that wasn't a Batman. must be years anyway.

or, you know, gravity/pacific rim

xxpost EZ: <3

ok I watched ''Monsters" tonight finally to see what all the hoopla was about

if godzilla looks anything like that, hooray.

but if he playfakes me into watching another hour plus of glassy-eyed indie fuxxors holding hands & staring at landscapes I *will* be fucking pissed

Annnnd here we go

https://gizmodo.com/takashi-yamazaki-godzilla-minus-one-sequel-new-movie-toho-2000519226

weeee

Pretty lame of them to denigrate the legacy of Godzilla with a sequel.

last week was 70 years since the first film

and has been downhill all the way

Minus One is back in US cinemas for anniversary reasons this week

Caught the theatrical rerelease of Minus One they're doing to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the Big Guy. (They're also showing it in the Minus Color variation; while I caught both versions in the original runs but won't be able to do Minus Color in theater this time I fear.) While I happily have the fancy-as-hell box that came out which I linked a few posts back, this was the first time I'd rewatched it since the original Minus Color run, and it really does hold up so well. (This time around it struck me how remarkable the music was in the final sequences, that's pure Howard Shore LOTR level stuff.) Also the bonus stuff for this release included the VFX promo reel they submitted for Academy consideration and new interview snippets with Takashi Yamazaki and Kiyoko Shibuya about the whole experience, so catch it if you can.

Bunch of nerds were excited about the Criterion release of "Godzilla Vs Biollante." Don't know what I expected, but with the exception of the maybe 10 minutes of the plant monster Biollante (an OK design) it was pretty much garbage. Made me laugh a couple of times, at least, at the shitty '80s espionage plot and gun fights (between people), which were sub A-Team. Acting was bad, dialogue was bad, requisite girl with ESP was bad, flying saucer military weapon was bad. Godzilla writes itself, so why are so many of these movies so bad!?

Biolante is my second favorite in the series!!!

It's enjoyable when it's not dumb and boring, I guess. Or I should say, it's definitely enjoyable when it is dumb, but like so many Godzilla movies it is shockingly boring. It was almost as if I was watching an alternate cut or something. What do you like so much about it?

Most nerds I know are pissed that Criterion is releasing this, not considered one of the high points of the Heisei era, separately as opposed to doing a box.

hmm nerds i know are psyched for an upgrade but not happy about the dub not being included. and yeah, they want a box!

What do you like so much about it?

the monsters and practical fx, what else??

the shots of Godzilla emerging from the water in POV view effing rule. the scope and drama of the piece too

not one i've seen (in last 4 decades at least), but i'd prefer to be able to buy them one at a time rather than in a (pointlessly large) £150 box, especially when i already have 6 of the 13 showa-era films.

the editions i have have both the original japanese and the american cuts, with full commentary. and they were as cheap as chips at the time, like £3 from amazon

Godzilla Raids Again (ntsc)
Purchase Date 2011
£2.18 + £1.26p+p
Total: £3.44

Hmm, I love me a good man-in-suit Godzilla and models, but I didn't get much in the way of scope or drama. Just a lot of lame commandos running around shooting at each other. Especially this loser:
http://i.imgur.com/Zfuy56u.jpg

koogs, the biollante 4k is like 30 pounds so 150 for a Heisei set would actually be a bargain...

Godzilla v Destoroyah is on for free at my local fleapit the last Sunday this month, celebrating 2 years in business I think (the cinema not Godzilla). Will report back!

The scene that made me laugh is when the soldier in the building shooting the bazooka at Godzilla thinks he's done, but with perfect slow comic timing puppet Godzilla sneaks up on him while he's packing up and then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a4GEygDTY

destroyah friggin RULES x-post

i love most all of that era tbh

Biolante is my second favorite in the series!!!

Which is your favorite?

Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack

Meantime, the next Monsterverse film is apparently called Godzilla x Kong: Supernova:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3nW0EYYcQ