The Cronenberg Thread

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has anyone been to that exhibit at TIFF that Dan mentioned?

mh, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:27 (twelve years ago)

faces on those children: excellent

mh, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:27 (twelve years ago)

Hadn't seen Scanners in eons (not right when it came out, but no more than a few years later). I remembered some of the gross stuff, so I wasn't expecting to like it much; there's actually wasn't all that much gore, though, and it's impressive in other ways. Probably a key film for him--here, The Dead Zone, Dead Ringers, Spider, others, Cronenberg would have fit comfortably into that Robert Kolker book A Cinema of Loneliness. Had completely forgotten about Jennifer O'Neill--think it's the only film of hers I've ever seen other than Summer of '42.

clemenza, Monday, 23 December 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)

did you go to the exhibit clemenza? just went last week

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 23 December 2013 15:54 (twelve years ago)

HOW WAS IT

also, if anyone in toronto wants to get me one of those coffee mugs I am willing to send a cash bounty

mh, Monday, 23 December 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)

what mug?

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)

(xxpost) Didn't go to the exhibit, no (think it's still on). I don't usually go to those--I saw the one when they opened for their 100 greatest films, and also the Chris Marker one upstairs. That was it.

clemenza, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)

Is this a Cronenberg mug in the gift shop, mh (and if you're not in Toronto, how did you know about it)? If that's what you mean, I'll be there next week and could put one in the mail for you.

clemenza, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)

http://tiff.net/tiffshop

Long Live the New Flesh

btw the baby onesie is amazing but I don't think any of my child-having friends would love it as much

mh, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)

oh shit would totally put my baby boy in that

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)

Okay--I looked at the gift shop page, but didn't get that far. If you do want something specific, click on my user name, follow the link, and we'll make arrangements.

clemenza, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

the mug was pretty nice i was thinking about it but it didnt have a price on it which is annoying

anyway—the exhibit was great but i wished it wasnt $15

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 23 December 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)

well, good thing I didn't book a flight to Toronto mostly for the exhibit :D

clemenza, I'll hit you up later today, thanks!

mh, Monday, 23 December 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)

The Brood's quite something--conceptually, it's got to be one of the grimmest and most well thought out horror films ever. The performances are better than I remembered--Reed's a little portentous at times, but he's not bad--and the climactic scene is gross, but not unwatchably so (and I have a low threshold nowadays). I believe Robin Wood hated Cronenberg's work then because it didn't fit into his theory of what horror films should do--lay waste to patriarchy, the nuclear family, sexual repression, etc. Wood wrote some great stuff on the genre, but I don't think you should ever put a theory before the work itself. The final shot of The Brood leaves all those considerations behind. (I've argued before, especially as applied to Vertigo, that a film's autobiographical content is of limited interest to me. Inconsistent, but for The Brood's backstory--Cronenberg's Kramer vs. Kramer, as he would always say--does make it feel that much more audacious.)

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2014 05:50 (twelve years ago)

oh geez, I completely spaced on my last message. thanks again for the offer, clemenza, but I'm good.

keep it up with the movie write-ups, though

mh, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)

Wise decision. I suspect postage would be more than the cost of the mug itself.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2014 15:21 (twelve years ago)

Can't find the shot I have in mind, but I think this is specifically meant to echo Night of the Living Dead (also a year before Nicholson punches his way through the wall in The Shining):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mrMyvYI7S5E/TnkMcA9KNZI/AAAAAAAAAtY/buIU-jIGcoA/s640/brood.PNG

My recollection of Don't Look Now is very dim, but I was wondering if the visual conception of the brood was tied in with Roeg's film.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2014 15:34 (twelve years ago)

those are two of my favorite horror movies!
i love the creepy gnome/human concept

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 3 January 2014 15:35 (twelve years ago)

Actually thought of Sybil last night also, LL, for obvious reasons--it's like Cronenberg took everything there and, three years later, moved it wholly into the realm of horror.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2014 15:49 (twelve years ago)

Sisters is splashier, but fits in too imo.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 3 January 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)

The Brood has long been one of my favorites, if not my favorite Cronenberg film. Always loved that character actor, the one on the stationary bike. He was in Existenz too. Robert A. Silverman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Silverman

dan selzer, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:20 (twelve years ago)

I recognized him from Scanners. He's funny in The Brood.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:26 (twelve years ago)

I was just watching Naked Lunch the other night - he's funny/weird/off-putting in that, too.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 3 January 2014 16:28 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Well this looks weird. And not the good kind of weird

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAWi6i4cmpE

Number None, Monday, 14 April 2014 20:31 (twelve years ago)

that just looks like a shitty thrown-together trailer

many of the simple shots in it seem very cronenbergian

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

he really has such a specific way of framing one-shots

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

i mean recognizable

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)

not gonna watch it if it's that thrown-together

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:24 (twelve years ago)

never saw Cosmopolis cuz of all the haterade (also not a DeLillo fan in general)

wish he would dip back into sci-fi or horror. Freud film was an acceptable detour, tho it felt like small stakes.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:34 (twelve years ago)

I can't get the page to load, but apparently Criterion's announced at least Scanners (hopefully The Brood as well) as part of their July lineup.

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:39 (twelve years ago)

Just Scanners from what I saw.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:40 (twelve years ago)

It does include his first film, Stereo, though.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:42 (twelve years ago)

Oh, neat. Maybe Crimes of the Future is being saved for the Brood disc? Those two are available on the R1 blu-ray of Fast Company, but if Criterion have managed to get commentaries for them I'll be ecstatic. Cronenberg is one of the all-time commentary track champions IMO.

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:44 (twelve years ago)

here are the extras:

The “Scanners” Way, a new documentary on the film’s special effects
New interview with actor Michael Ironside
The Ephemerol Diaries, a 2012 interview with actor and artist Stephen Lack
Excerpt from a 1981 interview with Cronenberg on the CBC’s The Bob McLean Show
Stereo (1969), Cronenberg’s first feature film
Trailer
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Kim Newman

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:47 (twelve years ago)

Oh wow. That cover design!

http://www.diabolikdvd.com/imgproduct/dab365c12bf05e22e0eb5df3b75b2212.jpg

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:48 (twelve years ago)

cover is better than the movie lol

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:05 (twelve years ago)

brood is hilarious, would make a great double bill with possesion.

nauru, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:13 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

Les Carlson, who played Barry Convex, the evil head of the Spectacular Optical Corp., in David Cronenberg’s hallucinatory sci-fi classic Videodrome, died May 3 at his home in Toronto.... Carlson also appeared in three other Cronenberg projects—as an intimidated newspaper editor in The Dead Zone (1983); as a doctor in the Jeff Goldblum starrer The Fly (1986); and as an aging actor in Camera (2000), one of a series of short films produced for the 25th anniversary celebration of the Toronto International Film Festival.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/videodrome-actor-les-carlson-dies-703127

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:41 (twelve years ago)

:(

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:45 (twelve years ago)

camera was great.

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:45 (twelve years ago)

RIP

super-creepy in Videodrome

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:46 (twelve years ago)

:(

he really has such a specific way of framing one-shots

― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:17 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and lighting them, i think

espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)

for sure

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:49 (twelve years ago)

His death scene in Videodrome ranks near the top of Cronenberg's most horrifying visions.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:53 (twelve years ago)

four months pass...

so far the major dissenter on Maps to the Stars is the guy who wrote the 'Showgirls is great' book ... I'm seeing it tom'w.

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-nyff-2014-david-cronenbergs-maps-to-the-stars

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 15:58 (eleven years ago)

He is definitely NOT the only dissenter.

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 16:00 (eleven years ago)

uh, yeah.

i actually didn't like the book as much as i was hoping, but it is interesting and thoughtful. and adam nayman is very smart.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:01 (eleven years ago)

and the film does look terrible. but who knows?

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:02 (eleven years ago)

yeah E i just meant in that roundup so far

im fine if everyone who likes Showgirls hates it

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:05 (eleven years ago)

his last short was probably better than this

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 September 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)


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