http://www.salon.com/2013/12/05/seven_questions_for_thirty_nine_questions_for_white_people_author_naima_lowe/
― Mordy , Friday, 6 December 2013 04:55 (twelve years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbHUwM9CQAAPj4g.jpg
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:40 (twelve years ago)
hello rich lady in fishnet bodystocking
― New York City Garden(?) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)
do u like anggry birds?
― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 11:33 (twelve years ago)
Prior to sentencing, a psychologist called by the defense, Dr. G. Dick Miller, testified that Ethan Couch's life could be salvaged with one to two years' treatment and no contact with his parents. ... Miller said Couch's parents gave him "freedoms no young person should have." He called Couch a product of "affluenza," where his family felt that wealth bought privilege and there was no rational link between behavior and consequences.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/12/ethan_couch_affluenza_texas_teen_spared_prison_time_in_deadly_drunk_driving.html
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)
where his family felt that wealth bought privilege and there was no rational link between behavior and consequences.
well, the judge just proved this
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 06:00 (twelve years ago)
check your privilege.... BEFORE IT KILLS
― mitch hedberg and kevin hart (sleepingbag), Friday, 13 December 2013 07:23 (twelve years ago)
cmon guys this kid has a life full of opportunity ahead of him, you want to destroy that just cos he ran down some schmucks while hopped up and playing his own real life game of GTA IV?
― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 13 December 2013 10:02 (twelve years ago)
Does sound as if he would have been better off being raised by wolves though. Hopefully the rehabilitation works out and the families of the victims find a way to ruin his parents through the civil courts.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2013 10:19 (twelve years ago)
it's like the Rake's Progress where the rake gets off at the end and lives happily ever after
― wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 December 2013 11:05 (twelve years ago)
or possibly more like if a quadruple murderer said "soz" and got off
― wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 December 2013 11:06 (twelve years ago)
"This kid has been in a system that’s sick," Miller said. "If he goes to jail, that’s just another sick system."
I think that's probably/possibly true. It's also true of most of the other kids ever convicted of crimes, who don't duck 20-year sentences but go on to have their lives ended or ruined by their punishment.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:33 (twelve years ago)
challops i know but i don't think this kid was ever gonna achieve 'great things'
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:36 (twelve years ago)
nobody said great things i don't know why i scare-quoted it
possibly i just resent minors for their 'youth privilege' idk
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)
... then again i knew dudes like this during my teenage years *thank u suburban privilege
and i feel like i woulda been totally sketched-out or outraged if one of them had gotten away with sum shit like this?
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)
youth not so legally privileged in the us
― ogmor, Friday, 13 December 2013 13:51 (twelve years ago)
Grow up poor- not an excuse or even mitigation go 2 prison 4evaGrow up rich- oh noes someone think of the childrereren
― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:56 (twelve years ago)
gets it
― wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 December 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)
I am generally not in favour of sending children to prison for nonviolent crimes unless it can't be avoided. From the sound of it, his parents let him drink and drive from the age of thirteen and raised him to have an almost sociopathic disregard for the consequences of his actions. Therapy seems essential. It should also be the punishment for kids from poor families who are put in the same situation. The fact it is denied to them is more outrageous than the fact it's given to him.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 13 December 2013 14:16 (twelve years ago)
deathrow the parents imo
― kel's vintage port (electricsound), Friday, 13 December 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)
the kid too
― am0n, Friday, 13 December 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)
sharivari otm
― k3vin k., Friday, 13 December 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)
yeah ShariVari otm
that said
no way this kid isn't going to be a psychopath (if he isn't that already)
you don't kill four people, get away with it, and not end up mentally damaged in some profound way
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
obviously there's a high chance he'll have some kind of trauma, but there are plenty of ppl who kill ppl without suffering profound mental damage e.g. military
― ogmor, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
^ sarcasm? i can't tell
― am0n, Friday, 13 December 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)
no one should ever have to go to jail for anything
― sent from my butt (harbl), Saturday, 14 December 2013 00:08 (twelve years ago)
I don't even know if this is the right thread for this (because I'm not sure I properly understand the meaning/purpose of this thread) or if it should be on the race thread, but really:
https://medium.com/get-bullish/a5e5f4e9132f
"Life Hacking" = brutal assertion of race, class, etc privilege.
― Branwell Bell, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 11:11 (twelve years ago)
"check ur privilege" lol
― dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 11:47 (twelve years ago)
Great story about the post office. That guy sounds like a real pice of work. Actually feel a book or documentary on the incident would be worth making but I suppose an article will have to do for now.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)
How to tell when someone has not read beyond the first three paragraphs of a piece. *sees screen name* Never mind, what was I expecting.
― Branwell Bell, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 13:30 (twelve years ago)
That's so good, I like that article! My littlest brother is totally that guy and I know other ones too even without the wealth inequality of the author.
― Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)
yeah i have friends like that who think (1) that they have unlocked the secret to day-to-day life and (2) when they do it it is scandalizingly charming in the same way a rude joke
― caek, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)
The most polite phrasing of their worldview is "It can't hurt to ask."
― Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)
i hate the degradation of the term 'lifehack' into 'oblivious dickhead behavior'
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:40 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, reading the article, I just thought "this is my brother" (this is people I went to school with, people I've worked with - and therefore, probably in ways I'm not even aware of it, *myself*!) all over. That whole "Oh, but bending the rules, just this once, just for little me" (and the false humility often gets trotted out as often as the entitlement) followed in quick succession by "ha ha, I can't believe everyone doesn't do this! The FULES! I am so clever and smart and funny and this is why I have nice things."
So my reaction is totally a wince, but also a recognition.
― The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:42 (twelve years ago)
I do however think you should use the heck out of what ppl are willing to do for you when it's punching up. Like most things.
― Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 14:43 (twelve years ago)
punching up?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)
directing your taking-advantage-of upward, rather than downward
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)
the powerful rather than etc
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:33 (twelve years ago)
that was one of jesus's parables iirc
― j., Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:34 (twelve years ago)
It's not always easy for people to work out when they're punching up which I think is where a lot of this stems from - people thinking they're gaming corporations or institutions when they're just making things harder for service staff and other customers (though I am sure this does not apply to in orbit).
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)
yah it seems like an awful complicated equation much easier not to use ppl at all
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)
otm
this stuff's supposed to be abt bending the rules of technology to get what you want
not bending people
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)
"It can't hurt to ask" is fine where "no" is an acceptable response.
― Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)
yeah, disgusted lol at "social hacking"
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)
I think anyone who has working in retail/service knows it's not just white men who do this kind of thing
but yeah, the businessman/suburban dude dropping into a city p.o. with the "Can't you people see that I can't stand in line with you all day. I have actual things to do!" attitude is something I've seen before.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I don't know that "punching up" is applicable in this specific kind of behaviour as discussed in the linked article.
Because it's not actually the *asking* that is where the privilege is located. It's the sense of entitlement behind the asking, and also the knowledge that in cases of "rule-bending" there will be no serious *consequences* beyond just a "no". Bluffing his way into a private party and essentially stealing a game of ping-pong (which, presumably they would have had to pay for, had the party not been in process) did not result in arrest for trespassing or prosecution for theft, and he never felt any danger that it would, it was just "japes and a fun life-hack". That assumption of "can't hurt to ask" where many, many people do experience problems, for even asking, that's exactly what privilege is in this case.
― The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)
i long for the days when "life hack" meant cutting a juice bottle in half and using it as a desk tidy.
― caek, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
"Handle so, dass du die Menschheit sowohl in deiner Person, als in der Person eines jeden anderen jederzeit zugleich als Zweck, niemals bloß als Mittel brauchst."
― Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)