The Wolf of Wall Street (new Scorsese)

(Bearing in mind that there are about 4 Scorsese movies post-Goodfellas that I like better than Goodfellas.)

it's better than The Age of Innocence?

("Confirmation" I should have said)

It's better than Cape Fear?

more debauched than Kundun

you'd think theyd rush to show it to more ppl given poll deadlines and the NYFCC whiff.

any major release that hits that mark

Any this fall besides All Is Lost?

so pumped for this. scorsese's most at home with the unpleasant and inarticulate.

Any this fall besides All Is Lost?

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

all is lost is like 100 minutes dude

that's in its favor!

clearly but im just settin the record straight

oh I see, you're a length man.

i wanted to add that pretty much every performance in this is impressive. dicaprio is incredible as i mentioned, mcconaughey has just a couple of scenes but sets the tone for the whole film, hill is surprisingly good (surprising bc i'd only seen him in some of his comic roles and i thought he was fine if nothing special, not that this isn't a comic role bc it really is). i didn't know who margot robbie was before i saw this but "she's a STAH!" imo. also liked shea wigham's small role as dicaprio's yacht captain.

probably gonna get lost in the discussion, but jon bernthal is A++.

such a bizarre movie. which is in its favor.

pumped now

man i really wanna see this

I'm still making the fictive leap necessary to regard Scrunchy Face as incredible

He was really good in the Great Gatsby

Sounds like he's even better in this

Will see

imo his recent (and all of his scorsese) roles have been very serious minded. i love 'the departed' but damon, wahlberg, baldwin, winstone & nicholson have the fun roles while he's the pill-popping stressed out drama center. he's good in the aviator but he's ruled by disorder demons. in GONY he's supposed to be neeson's son but he never works up anything resembling his compelling charisma, and in shutter island (which is p fun i think) he's just playing a bit of a blank slate crazypants detective. he's cutting loose here and i get the sense he was having a blast while making the film. i mean this whole movie must have been amazing to film.

at this point eagerly expecting a new scorsese movie is kind of like getting really excited over a new springsteen album. i mean, it might be better than the last one, or even the last two, but...

He confided that during the filming of two pics over the last 10 years he wanted to abandon the projects, but refrained from naming them....

Scorsese recalled how they had laughed when the New York Times wrote an article about “Raging Bull,” entitled “What’s happened to language in the cinema?”, but suggested that the language in his latest pic, “The Wolf of Wall Street” is far worse – “They’re making money, you know.”

http://variety.com/2013/film/international/martin-scorsese-i-miss-the-time-when-i-had-the-desire-to-experiment-1200930180/

I hated the movie, but "Django Unchained" certainly showed Leo "cutting loose."

yeah I guess it would have. I never saw it for some reason, probably should at some point.

re: the two he'd wanted to abandon, I'd be shocked if one of them wasn't Shutter Island.

otm

while i have no desire to see "silence" i wish they'd just let him make the damn thing already

You're probably right. That's probably my favorite of his since Y2K.

xp

at this point you can promote Silence as everyone's favorite grandpa fulfilling his bucket list

Silence the book is p rad, highly doubtful a Scorsese movie would be any good but hey

(and re: the 2 movies: Shutter Island and Gangs of New York, it's gotta be)

But I thought that Gangs was one of his pet projects for awhile?

there's already a p gd movie of Silence by Shinoda

thx guys I had erased Shutter Island from my memory

@Elvis, that's true. I was mostly thinking that because of the Weinstein meddling, but from what I'm aware most of that happened after filming anyway. Probably The Departed, then. (Can't see it being The Aviator or Hugo, just because they were big "love letter to cinema" type things and I know that's all he really wants)

Yeah, he really regrets winning an Oscar.

Meanwhile ... this movie ...

Pretty sure the chimp was also in charge of continuity.

I used to go to Scorsese films with unrealistically high expectations, then with no expectations, then I avoided a couple, and now I'm not even sure what I'm approaching this one with, except I will see it, so I've at least reversed course. But I don't know if I'm capable of seeing a film of his for what it is anymore--lots of clutter in there.

I'll put it this way. Do you like Goodfellas? You might want to just watch Goodfellas. Take it from someone who doesn't even like Goodfellas.

Goodfellas was during my unreasonably-high-expectations phase--I remember my first response, writing to a friend at the time, was to dwell on the couple of things that bothered me. (Now, of course, very typical, love it--though I wore it out.) Soon after, Cape Fear helped pave the way for the next phase in a big way.

this movie is kind of a mess but i loved it nonetheless. it's not as amazing as goodfellas (what is???) but it's tremendo.

Even golden-era Scorsese never cared about continuity... tons of mismatched shots all over the place.

Yeah, he really regrets winning an Oscar.

Now that you mention it, I'm sure I overheard some gossip that for that film, HE DID!

Goodfellas is lousy with continuity errors.

So this was pretty much a giant waste of time.

High five!!

The best thing I can say about it is that all involved (all of the men, anyway) clearly had a blast making it.

Now that you mention it, I'm sure I overheard some gossip that for that film, HE DID!

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's been rumblings of this for a bit, yeah. Who knows how true they are.

tell me more

i kinda felt like the oscar win for scorsese was orchestrated in such a way that it came off as condescending (kinda like bigelow's win.)

some funny semi-flaming over this on my FB

I find the trailer at the top of this thread exquisitely charmless and unfunny. It gives me the same feeling I always got from watching John Lithgow and 3rd Rock From the Sun, like hey we're all just letting it all hang out and having a blast, and me I wanna put my foot through the screen.

otm, but an al leong endorsement bears more weight than a trailer

part of me feels this movie has as much in common with a jody hill movie as a scorsese/"wall street"/"boiler room" type movie in some ways

i believe in my boy al leong