blue is the warmest color - Abdellatif Kechiche

^^ one of the better pillow talk scenes I've seen. Man, have I been the Emma too often.

haha same

Blue hair?

I was both

even dyed my crotch hair blue

Good to know

In the sequel Amma's girlfriend will break up with her and than emma will feel how is it to be on the same side as adelle! The fucking bitch!

tbh it just sounds like you were bored by them and wanted her to leave! your read isnt there for me at all but then again the film's strength is in its observation and lack of signposting, its definitely not a 'feel this one way about this scene' movie

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This reminded me a bit of the ball scene in Visconti's The Leopard, where that feeling of boredom descends suddenly on Don Fabrizio. Of course he says all of this, but here the action is still cutting.

I wasn't bored by them bcz Kechiche didn't really allow you much time in their company.

finally saw this - its kind of a slog, kind of brilliant. both actresses are amazing. the sex scenes were very brave for no other reason that i felt a bit sorry that both girls were so exposed. they also almost made me LOL a few times - didnt feel they were titillated (more weirdly in awe, maybe just cos even in 2013, this seemed weirdly surprising to see at the cinema). but did feel like the sex was there just to shock too, just by being there – without those scenes this would have just been arthouse french realism, a bit like the dardennes. i know critics have said the sex scenes go on too long, but this is a film where EVERY scene is ‘too long’ (by modern hollywood standards). the sex scenes are almost a distraction from what the film is most interested in. though saying that, there was something sensual about them, and something oddly new in how the sex was presented. i never felt it was sexploitation or soft core.

its not perfect, i dont think the director has any great sense of composition or visual texture, but its brilliant for what it does with faces, principally adeles, and close-ups. the whole film is about her face and how expressive she is. and about showing her face at its absolute worst, snotty, teary, greasy, oily, right up close so you could almost see into her pores. its also got brilliant characterisation, particularly with the family setups/family history of the two girls. somewhat heavy handed, but also really tender, coming of age/sexual discovery (without any old cliches)/romance-in-adolescence story with lots of (very french) intellectual diversions (can anyone imagine a british film like this? i couldnt, though i did think of summer of love).

i dont know if i drifted off but i was a bit confused as to when adele left school to become a teacher full time.

weird reading that imdb review above - i never thought of emma as having a sense that adele didnt fit into her world, i only saw that from adele's awkwardness around that circle. i only saw emma as unwilling to listen or understand. i never saw adele as working class either - more lower middle, like when her mum says 'its nice to have a man who can work for both of you'.

i keep wondering what catherine breillat would have done with this story

Dardennes are very dry to me, so even w/out sex scenes it wouldn't have been like that.

Ws wondering whether Adele's face is up to working with the camera...really would need a re-watch.

The whole split because of these differences in worldview (one is so much more cultural/knows more) was bogus wasn't it? Plenty of couples are quite unlike one another and it works. We could write it off as the impossibility of seeing relationships from the outside but it seems like the easy way out to me.

i didnt put that down to their family histories - the family belief systems seemed to play out more in the girls' career choices than them breaking up, which i thought it was a pretty standard breakup narrative in movies - self-engrossed artist with no time for gf ignores gf so gf ends up cheating. was a bit dissapointed this wasnt explored more than just lots of shouting (even accounting for them being young). also felt like the school incident with her friends calling her a lesbian was there just to show that the film was dealing with 'issues' (not that it didnt deal with how lesbians have to worry about how theyre perceived in society, it did, but that one seemed the most blatant, and i kinda expected there to be more follow up on it - it was as though one minute she was a school girl, the next just a lover, then a teacher)

Well, again, like I said a few days ago I don't blame Emma. It's no fun to date for several years a person as slavish as Adele.

yes, she should have cited a better reason for living than just being with emma, poor girl.

have to say, i find it totally weird how heavily this is being promoted in london - theres posters for it everywhere.

poster looks best with the blue background though -
http://www.theenglishgroup.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/blue-is-the-warmest-colour-460x665.jpg

i also got a dardennes vibe at the very start - opening in medea res, shots of a lower middle class suburb - but as xyzzzz says, the bros are generally much drier filmmakers - this is a much more 'performed' movie, complete w/ non-diagetic sound.

the soundtrack to this was great btw - was surprised at just how global it was (i should see more kechiche, though im not sure hes a director i am going to 'like' all that much)

it was as though one minute she was a school girl, the next just a lover, then a teacher

gr8 summary of this nuanced three hour art film

the soundtrack to this was great btw - was surprised at just how global it was (i should see more kechiche, though im not sure hes a director i am going to 'like' all that much)

the way that steel drum from the scene where they first lay eyes on each other came back in the closing shot was so great

yep

http://cdn.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/11/faces_poster.jpg

prefer this to Faces.

me too, but still

THE ACCLAIMED MOTION PICTURE

phenomenally good

i just love the idea of ppl seeing this advertised on the london underground and not knowing what its about at all and then being stuck in the cinema watching 3 hours of teen existentialism with discussions about sartre when they'd rather be watching carrie (which btw, is the best of the recent horror remakes and actually quite underrated, forget what de palma fanboys/canonical critics may like to think)

love the quotes on the faces poster - you never see critics quotes that excitable/exciting anymore - they always seem either too measured or blandly hyperbolic

well, people usually read about the movie before they go and see it..

carrie (which btw, is the best of the recent horror remakes and actually quite underrated, forget what de palma fanboys/canonical critics may like to think)

GTFO

Haven't seen this specific movie, but I feel like I have seen this general movie before, several times over, both with a straight couple as the focus and with a gay (male) couple as the focus. Is this one a big deal because they've finally gotten around to two female leads? Quality of performances aside, it's starting to feel a bit like, you know, the second Spanish woman with one leg climbing Everest sort of thing.

yeah, if it wasnt for the leads playing two lesbians, im not sure this would merit so much comment. but then, there havent been many films about two lesbians like this, so it does deserve all that comment.

xpost - carrie is great (chloe grace moretz is too pretty for the role, but she does a good enough job emoting etc)

It's cool if you think the remake's great, but don't blame the world disagreeing with you on De Palma fanboys.

i dunno this is a great movie that's worth talking about for lots of reasons besides the fact it's about two women: the way it deals with the intersections of love, sex, class, and adulthood; the performances from the two leads; the nervous, intimate cinematic style

would have liked to see him explore the male gaze concept a little more, feels like he got off to a great start but didnt quite nail it (no pun intended)

"but I feel like I have seen this general movie before, several times over,"

don't judge a movie by it's cover/genre.

it's like saying: i've seen gangster movies before, i don't wanna see another one.
or: Tokyo Story? what's so special about a family drama?

the plot/genre are just the frame.

the male gaze concept is def. not the main issue in this movie. it's no Hitchcock..

the film does teenage response to love really well i think, that one moment when emma and adele kiss and then she looks so awkward/giggly/silly, its such a perfect few seconds

How's it compare to:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Fucking_%C3%85m%C3%A5l_original_poster.jpg

Haven't seen this specific movie, but I feel like I have seen this general movie before, several times over, both with a straight couple as the focus and with a gay (male) couple as the focus. Is this one a big deal because they've finally gotten around to two female leads? Quality of performances aside, it's starting to feel a bit like, you know, the second Spanish woman with one leg climbing Everest sort of thing.

seriously Josh

Yeah, seriously. It's cool to like this movie, and this may be the best movie of its type, but from my nil-point vantage the discussion at large has mainly been about the love scene, or the fact that it's about two women, but not about the direction or the story. I'm sure the acting is great. Every movie is worth watching, pretty much. And obviously every great film is worth watching. But I'm trying to pin down whether this film is great or whether it is simply a great version of a film we've all seen before. And yes, I make the distinction.

Fucking Amal/Show Me Love is amazing, btw.

Just about every person on this thread – not to mention the serious reviews – barely mentioned Those Scenes, or used Those Scenes to unlock the rest of the movie.

plus: Haven't seen this specific movie

I said "discussion at large," not discussion on ILX. Critics and folks have been talking about this movie for months. This thread was started a few days ago. And the reason the ask is because I'm trying to figure out if I should see it or not, or see it on the big screen or whatever. I can't see every movie, unfortunately, and three hour movies are particularly tough for me, so I'm vetting it through people whose tastes I somewhat trust or at least think I understand, vs. some hyperbolic NPR critic who extols the film as some monumental work but fails to explain just why.

Like, on that other thread someone linked to an essay extolling the virtues of Paul Walker, but fucked if I'm going to watch ten car chase movies.

see it on a big screen

there are other films like this, so don't see it

see it on a big screen. It's a good movie with scene constructions, lines, moments to think about for a while. The sex scenes bored me tbh cuz I'm a peculiar gay man who believes that for cinematic sex brevity is the soul of dick.

Thanks!

xp how true that is

Some lovely night in front of the fire.

yeah, and now I'm remembering by the time this movie came out in the US it was already surrounded by a miasma of misconduct

The trailer for the new Abdellatif Kechiche film looks intriguing pic.twitter.com/SzrRvz4wJZ

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) June 15, 2019

This was on Film4 last night and I managed about two hours before getting bored of the camera gawping at Adele's mopey face and not so mopey arse. Which is a shame because I really liked the early part of the film and Adele Exarchopoulos' performance is amazing. The sex scenes are ludicrous but I imagine the director enjoyed them.

The whole film is a never-ending Lenny face.

Butts is the warmest color

Isn't this the chump whose much derided latest features long stretches of nothing but twerking and oral sex?

careers have been built on less

I believe his latest film is a breakthrough in the onscreen depiction of twerking, yes.

The whole film is a never-ending Lenny face.

is there a single female post itt

Probably not, how many women post on ILX still? 5?

(xp) That's exactly what I was thinking reading the inexplicably positive responses to this film itt. I do wonder if anyone's changed their mind since though.