immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

Yeah Danny Bowien is an example of a guy who does it right

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/dining/danny-bowiens-mission-cantina-opens-soon.html?_r=0

Ned, I used to say I'd never go back to Orange County, but now I'd like to visit the old neighborhoods (Stanton, Westminster, Garden Grove) and see what's changed since 1975.

Stanton...is Stanton. The other two spots, that's something else.

we put cream cheese in a wonton wrapper and fried it guys

Yes, yes we did. You're welcome.

Love,
The Midwest

dont want to read this thread but is the 'asian restaurant with ACTUAL asian people eating there' thing racist or not?

i feel like well-meaning white racists i know say this all the time as a way of describing good 'ethnic' food places

Not nec racist but you should go to a place because the food is good not because asian people eat there

There are plenty of terrible places where chinese people eat at

For example, chinese buffets

I do encourage all white ppl to try and discover more places actual Asians (tm) eat at

The food there is often very good

last time i was in nyc i got the whole sichuan so real even immigrants eat it thing idk, put me off a bit, dont want yr cultural tourism jr associates &c

New York has some pretty dope Sichuan

But you probably wouldn't want to eat it with one of those guys

My friend has done some favors for a Chinese coworker and has been taken out to lunch, thinking they'll go somewhere interesting and it's been a Chinese buffet a couple times. hehe

Although on one excursion they went by some industrial building where these young dudes were trying to out together a tofu factory. The actual businessman with know-how wasn't able to stick around and the whole situation turned into some comedic tragedy. I really need to find the right thread to detail that one....

my uni has a lot of asian students & so a lot of asian restaurants & many of these asian restaurants serve p much entirely asian clientele. with long lines. & it's not like these are out of the way or expensive or serve particularly weird food. the food's fantastic. & asian students recommend these places to me & other non-asians. just don't get it.

tonight I'll go appropriate some huaraches at a place where there will be no gringos & again, this is not an out of the way place, and huaraches aren't weird: fried dough with meat and cheese.

none of these places are fancy & I do hear white people say that they're "dirty", which I guess says it all

For example, chinese buffets

But the value per pound is so delicious.

My friend has done some favors for a Chinese coworker and has been taken out to lunch, thinking they'll go somewhere interesting and it's been a Chinese buffet a couple times. hehe

This is such a classic Chinese person move. My parents have done it and have had it done to them. It's so bad

Like we'll have friends over and cook them a really nice big meal. So the next time we go visit them and by courtesy they're supposed to treat us. What happens is we get taken out to the Chinese buffet

Thus when they come over next we'll take them out to our local Chinese buffet. Except it'll be called something like International Hibachi Teriyaki Grill but it's always run by Chinese people. Like 99% of sushi restaurants outside of NYC and LA

It actually ends up being good for us because one of our friends eats a LOT. She never stops eating. So when we go to the chinese buffet we're actually saving so much time and hassle of individually wrapping DUMPLINGS! and meat buns and mixing up the ground pork mixture and all that

L4ng is a super-nice dude with the most random connections. He apparently went to high school (well, the equivalent) with a guy who ended up being China's minister of agriculture around 2008ish and helped coordinate a visit to our company. Mostly he hoards computers and boxes in his office, though.

If you get taken out by him to the CHinese buffet it means you're not in his inner circle. He's just going through the motions

fetzoned

Hah, same friend that went there got invited to his house a couple times. I am not sure there is an inner circle per se

the bathroom

Did they just make out a little or did the friend stay the night

Picturing my friend k3ith and this 50 year old man making out is making me lol

If the dude is 50 then his connections most definitely aren't random. He's from the era when only Chinese of the landed gentry could make it out of the country. Probably went to a very prestigious Chinese high school

If he had stuck it out in China during the lean times he would probably be very rich. He would be part of the same group of people that are now scraping the country to the bone

Yeah, I got that impression! I may be a bad gauge of age, but def at least mid-40s. I should ask him about it sometime.

"Are you part of the group of people scraping China to the bone?"

http://www.womenofchina.cn/html/womenofchina/report/169984-1.htm

I like this & support it

$8 for one though that's crazy

I took a vid of my 煎饼 guy yesterday http://instagram.com/p/k1Ii6iv0B7/

I want a 煎饼 guy! I will have to keep my eyes peeled. Gonna pass on any hot dog option.

For lunch I'm gonna go to a halal restaurant where there's a guy pulling noodles in the window (S. just informed me that these are Xinjiang noodles. Off to read what that is all about). Chinese + Muslim appropriation all in one dish!

Hah that's not really appropriation - those noodle shops are opened usually by muslims from Xinjiang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_cuisine

Yeah well a western WASP getting stupid excited about noodles and mutton is kinda suspect ;)

^_^

no one eats mutton in my area! it's crazy

omg jianbing are soooooooo good, one of the top three things i ate in china easily. I should look around for where I can get 'em in NYC, there must be tons.

Haven't seen any in MHT Chinatown and I live there

Nor any in Flushing

Update: that lamb soup with Xinjiang noodles was excellent; will appropriate again soon.

90% of the time "pulling noodles in window" + mutton is going to be advertised as lanzhou lamian even if they're only sometimes run by people from gansu. and usually by people from qinghai in my experience. maybe dongxiang people from xinjiang. maybe even hui muslims. you can get pilau and a few sorta central asian dishes sometimes at those places but it's not exactly xinjiang cuisine. and definitely uighur lagman is a different noodle situation than what you get in these places.

so I was headed around the corner to my soup place for breakfast/lunch (I wake up so late that it has morphed into a single late-morning meal) and LO AND BEHOLD there's a couple making jianbing right there on my corner.

it was totally fine and cost fairly close to nothing, but is not in the competition for my soup affections. I didn't go to my soup place yesterday so I'll have to squeeze it in today for a snack because I miss it when I don't visit!

There is great Uighur place here in Melbourne, fantastic handmade noodles but the start is the roast mutton which comes in uncharacteristically (for chinese food at least) large lumps and is deliciously spiced with lots of cumin.

Now its a challenge do I seek out 煎饼 for lunch or go and have uighur noodles?

http://www.womenofchina.cn/html/womenofchina/report/169984-1.htm

lol this article

http://i.imgur.com/AMompPx.jpg

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Port-San-Antonio-bans-food-truck-because-of-5288089.php

This was just a bad idea all around

After my grandfather had a few strokes and lost most of his speech, one of the only things he could still say, in a wheezy lifetime-smoker's growl, was "Huh. Jesus Christ."

I did a pretty good imitation of him when that image loaded.

"Yoder, who is not Asian"

y'don't say

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/07/the_kimchi_revolution_how_korean_american_chefs_are_changing_food_culture/

that was terrible

You may know him as the Iron Chef and master of Japanese cuisine, but chef Masaharu Morimoto has a new restaurant in NYC that blends Japanese with … (wait for it) … Mexican cuisine!

And yes, it's as delicious as it sounds.

Asian x Mexican seems to be getting more popular these days http://www.missioncantinany.com/

We had a favorite sushi joint in MEXICO that had fabulous fresh baja seafood served raw with really good sushi rice and chili/cilantro sauces and man I was super opposed to fusion sushi but that shit WORKED.