2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

And if he is such a peacemaker, why has there been so much anger coming from everyone around him? (The namecalling from numerous aids, the Wright thing)

Dude, have you been watching the news? Do you know what liberalism is?

One of the biggest misinterpretations of Obama's message that I'm running into (aside from the "OMG MUSLIM" stuff) is the idea that his message is about centrist politics. Obviously his record is more liberal than moderate, so this misinterpretation makes him seem disingenuous.

But the important thing to note is that it's his approach, not his politics, that is the centerpiece of his style. He's not advocating a centrist political approach - he's advocating an approach that acknowledges significant differences without demonizing the other side. He doesn't have to abandon his liberal views to acknowledge that conservatives might have some good ideas and they're worth talking to. But when people mix up the views with the approach, it makes him seem like a man who speaks from the center and votes from the left.

good post

i understand the 'reaching across the aisle' shit to mean obama will look at shit like Political instances where conservatives were/are right...

didn't Obama post to that thread under the handle "Garu G"

I'm not saying Obama is definitely an extremist

what the fuck are you talking about?

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Amazing, but it's crucial to remember that as much as we deride people who can't write, spell, or otherwise communicate an ability to think, they *also have a vote*.

Latest is that someone at an Indiana college campus asked Chelsea something difficult:

Chelsea Clinton had a quick retort Tuesday when asked whether her mother's credibility had been hurt during the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

"Wow, you're the first person actually that's ever asked me that question in the, I don't know maybe, 70 college campuses I've now been to, and I do not think that is any of your business," Clinton said during a campaign visit for her mother, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Uh, wow.

What a supremely douchey question.

lol genealogy

it's a nonsensical question and the answer is equally nonsensical xp

LOL geneaology indeed!

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how bout hillary sitting down with r.m. scaife? how generous and open-hearted of her, to do that.

one could say she's almost... human.

p.s. can we have a couple of our resident FOH's chime in on the Tuzla airport thing? how exactly does someone who is not a calculating machiavel with a puffed-up resume "misspeak" about being shot at, or not? just askin', like.

She can't admit to lying, so she has to have another explanation. That this one isn't true either isn't importSo why DID Obama go to that church when he knew that Wright was preaching there?

what a machievellian genius Hillary is, to lie about a high-profile, videotaped public event!

oh, right, she was sleep-deprived.

honestly, after all the BS this campaign has seen, that might be the most infuriating to me because it's the most insulting to the intelligence. did she think there wasn't video from 1995? and the defenses have been stunning. sinbad (a comedian) has no credibility because he's ... "a comedian." and making up a combat yarn is a function of... exhaustion.

xp hah i've never said she was a genius.

but Tracer, she'd still be "fine" as the party's standard bearer, amirite? This is about as much of a standard as the Dems are used to.

yes, but how crafty! how calculating! to totally misstate what happened at an event the entire world was watching and has a record of! truly, such cunning can scarcely be comprehended

no, to think that such 'cunning' would not be immediately comprehended, cannot be comprehended. dyougetme.

i mean i'm really actually stunned over here

do you think bush misspoke all those times he lied, just because it was so obvious he was lying?

he must have been exhausted

(incidentally, if machiavelli was correct about anything, you wouldn't have to be smart to be a successful ruler, you'd just have to follow the M playbook and it would work, right?)

3AM Phone Call: "Bomb them!"
7AM press conference: "Did I say bomb? I was sleep deprived, I misspoke."

plus, as a long-time fan of sinbad, i am quick to defend his legacy.

So it turns out that Hillary's claim -- that she was the first presidential spouse to visit a war zone since Eleanor -- is incorrect; Pat Nixon visited Vietnam.

Rolling Stone: HRC's a habitual teller of tall tales"

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"shock"

p.s. can we have a couple of our resident FOH's chime in on the Tuzla airport thing? how exactly does someone who is not a calculating machiavel with a puffed-up resume "misspeak" about being shot at, or not? just askin', like.

umm I'm pro-HRC but my answer is "she was lying because she didn't figure she would get caught - she's something of a scumbag, you know"

being an FOH doesn't mean thinking she rules or anything rite

ha fair enuf

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JD, what will be a bigger asset in enabling her to universalize healthcare, get us out of Iraq and fix the economy, the habitual lying or the finger-to-the-wind "principles"?

lol at Mark Halperin on the cover of the NYT

didn't really read my post eh Morbs

it's cool, you ain't gotta

the last one? yes. what are her qualities that she's masking with the two that are easily noticed?

give me one reason why I'd bother to answer you

Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?

Reid: Easy.

Q: How is that?

Reid: It will be done.

Q: It just will?

Reid: Yep.

Q: Magically?

Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.

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When foreigners look at the three contenders, Sen. Barack Obama seems to have the lead among Europeans and Africans. Sen. Hillary Clinton is popular among Mexicans and Chinese. Sen. John McCain just returned from a campaign swing through the Middle East and Europe.

lol obamas popular some places, clintons doing well in others and mccain just got back from a trip!

and no one's gettin' fat except Barney Frank

You can almost see it with its arms folded, going "Hmmmmmmmmm...."