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his autobiography of peter cook is brilliant

LOL!

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have a seventies porn mag w/the daughter of Ingmar Bergman in. I never knew she was in Mind Your Language.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

i loved monkey dust when i first saw it, but fucking hell: it was the prime offender - more so than little britain! - in just repeating the same fucking joke sketch in, sketch out. some of the ideas there were brilliant - the gambling father was genius - but you did end up watching it and knowing EXACTLY what was going to happen.

and so up to a point i agree with noodle vague: if "satire" has become a process whereby smug graduates with digital telly sit and smirk because they know that in 30 seconds they'll watch amusingly drawn middle-class dinner-party guests being dismembered horribly, something has gone badly wrong. it's the same reason HIGNFY should have been taken off the air years ago: once comedy becomes part of the establishment it seeks to attack, it's no longer satire. this is a no-brainer, but seems lost on most producers.

as for sketch shows: while recognition/anticipation of the shared joke has always been a big part of such comedy - why else would comedians create characters? - we seem to have reached some kind of reductio ad absurdum where the very appearance of the character is, er, the joke itself. this is probably the fault of "the fast show"; or, rather, the fault of knob-end writers who watched it and didn't quite work out that its genius lay in the depth of the characters and the tiny observations therein, not just in the fact it repeated "ooh, suits you" a lot.

looking at next week's TV listings in h**t magazine, i see mitchell and webb are promising "a night at the pub with captain pugwash, two highly competitive actors playing holmes and watson, and a call-centre worker who has telekinetic powers ... over biscuits". so: three new characters/setups in the second week! my god, this is like a return to the golden age of fucking comedy. whenever that was.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I read an interview somewhere where they said they're not going to do too many (or any?) recurring sketches. Good thing.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

i hope the bring back the homeless guys though.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

I would be surprised if they don't have any recurring sketches given that three or four in the first programme were lifted directly from recurring sketches on That Mitchell and Webb Sound.

My favourite recurring radio sketches are the snooker guys and Big Talk, and neither of these were as good in visual versions, I thought. But the things they couldn't have done on radio were pretty good ie. the banana dance, How What Not to Look Like (actually come to think of it they COULD have done the latter on radio but the blacking up gag wouldn't have worked as well obviously).

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the snooker thing fell flat on tv.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

The joke just doesn't work anyway, are they saying snooker commentators are all boozers? I didn't see the point of it.

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but the thing is, even in those sketches that don't really have a 'point', (like the snooker commentators), I just think watching Mitchell and Webb is funny. This is probably why I'm pretty forgiving--I'm very fond of them as performers and sort of think they're intrinsically funny.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, I like them but they are supposed to be making us laugh here

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

the whole show was like the BBC had just discovered this hot new thing they call "alternative comedy", welcome to 1979

in teh snooker sketch that webb fellow looked an awful lot like the non-bald prick from little britain

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

big talk was a parody of a chris morris parody of something else though, right?

antyway. i liked the show, certainly enough to watch it again. and i loved the james bond-baiting guys!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

the whole show was like the BBC had just discovered this hot new thing they call "alternative comedy"

no it wasn't.

it was a sketch show. it didn't set out to change comedy forever. it never claimed to be new in that way. in the same way most television programmes don't involve a total revolution of the medium. it set out to entertain, and it did so.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

in addition to my 'autobiography' snafu up there, i actually meant monkey trousers when i was talking about monkey dust.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

it didn't set out to change comedy forever.

that's not what i meant

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Too slow, all characters done better by others previously, smug.

The best TV sketch show this year has been Modern Toss and even that was uneven.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

and just hammered the same (admittedly very funny) jokes again and again.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

all characters done better by others previously

eg?

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

in teh snooker sketch that webb fellow looked an awful lot like the non-bald prick from little britain

Ha! I was just gonna ask if anyone noticed that Mitchell, when dressed in certain costumes (like in the snooker sketch), looked strangely like the bald guy from little britain.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the 'how not what to wear' rug-pull was good -- shaping up to be a soft-target 'lol reality tv failure' thing, then it's a bit 'wtf serious misjudgment', and then, and then...

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

...it wasn't funny

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

well, ok. i laughed.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they would do more of that thing where they're just being themselves, like when Morecambe and Wise did the bits at their "flat", and Fry and Laurie used to a similar thing too, I think... but not like French and Saunders of course! (Bleccccccccchhhhh)

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Modern Toss was just 'lol swearing' for the most part wasn't it?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

the bits i saw were shit.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

Did Joel Veitch have a whole series to himself on C4 a while back or not? When in doubt, reach for the deranged kittens in flatcaps.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Rather Good TV? Didn't watch it myself...

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's all been downhill since Beggar My Neighbour.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't Channel 4 sign Veitch to some long term deal and then found out that they had absolutely no outlet for his, ahem, "talents"? Hence crazy singing cats appearing on every late night comedy show for about three years?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

My ranting last night was glorious like the Charge of the Light Brigade.

― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if it's Veitch behind the terrific new video for Sparks 'Dick Around'. Doesn't look quite his style but similar/influenced by.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

> My favourite recurring radio sketches are the snooker guys

this was the only bit i've seen of this so far (was busy watching Low Winter Sun or whatever it was called) anyway, it reminded me of Dick & Ken the snooker men, something radcliffe used to do his radio shows.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Couldn't be bothered with Low Winter Sun, since it looked like a ripoff of what I do much better in Rebus...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

I found it odd that the snooker sketch took a booze theme when on the radio it isn't like that at all, there's a whole story arc involving being gay and stuff which is much better.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

I still think Monkey Dust was rather harshly dicked upon. Sure the conclusions to most sketches were inevitable, but with MD it's all about the getting there, not the end result. As a bleak, despairing portrait of British society and its wrongs it had to be this way, with clever narrative tricks traded in for stark, terrifyingly real images and a sense of complete narrative logic that bashes its message into your skull with the same urgency of a man in a nightgown running bell in hand down Charing Cross Road with tales of apocalypse on his tongue. You know exactly what's going to happen, yet in the case of satire often this knowledge is empowering, and adds to your enjoyment of the cruel, ritualistic procedure.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

a bleak, despairing portrait of British society and its wrongs

Oh how we laughed!

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Some of Monkey Dust really got to me; it actually made me cry in places. The knowledge that it was partly written by a dying man makes it all the more poignant, but not in a sentimental way.

About the Mitchell and Webb prog...ah well, never mind...it'll be comedy heaven tonight, with the third edition of the Charlotte Church Show!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think one of the points I was drunkenly thrashing after was that MD strikes me as part of the landscape of shite it's trying to satirize. I don't get a sense of moral indignation, just "lol modern life". And not many lols, neither.

― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

the suicide bomber gags were spot on, not that they'll ever be repeated now

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Monkey Dust really was depressing unpleasant pap for the most part. Where was the heart/humanity? I didn't see much actual satire in it either. I did like the 'it's actually an old lady making those dial-up modem sounds' and 'quiz shoq host talks like that to his wife as well' things tho.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

About the Mitchell and Webb prog...ah well, never mind...

"Oh dear. How sad. Never mind."

http://www.stuart.cann.freeuk.com/images/windsor_davies.jpg

― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I miss It Ain't Half Racist Mum.

― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

why is cruelty enjoyable? (obv. i enjoy cruelty in other shows, to an extent - never more than in mid 90s Simpsons episodes) but the way it was handled in MD left me colder than cold (ice cold).

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah they should have done gags about james bond instead

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Are you 'avin' a laff?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

You 'avin' a laff?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

he's 'avin' a laaaaaaaaaaaaf!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/imagedump/4897.jpg

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/imagedump/4897.jpg

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

so, is this thread broken or something?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

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