Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Classic or Dud [spoilers]

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I have now slept through it, twice. Though I stayed awake for the series (and when is the rest of the series coming out on DVD? These VHS tapes are killing me!).

So, um, maybe classic, maybe dud.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoah. How on earth did you sleep through the finale?

This reminds me of an afternoon when I dozed off while listening to It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. In my half-sleeping delerium I remember thinking to myself, "What a lovely, sweet record...."

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Search the Fantomas cover of the theme song, btw.

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

The Wedding Present version is pretty good too.

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Sadly (or luckily) I can sleep through most anything, Amateurust. I don't even want to start listing the movies I've only seen in parts as a result of this ability/curse. (Basically, unless I am doing something interactive, like reading or drawing or cooking, while movie watching, I tend to tune out and fall asleep. This is not as true for theaters, though - but I have to admit that I fell asleep in both The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers [but having seen each of them several times I think I have actually seen the whole of each movie, just not in order.] Oh, and I watched the second half of Dr. Zhivago but no the first, so I was pretty lost. And I've never made it through Citizen Cain or Gone with the Wind - and today I slept through most of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.)

Anyway, yeah, the boys told me that the end of Fire Walk with Me was fairly, um, dramatic. But I was snoring off in my own world (much like I did through Akira and some other movie last weekend. And, likely, much as I will do this weekend, while watching the original "Bedazzled" and um, whatever that new anime is that everyone is raving about).

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 17 May 2003 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

first 20 minutes are priceless.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Saturday, 17 May 2003 03:34 (twenty-three years ago)

AKIIIIIIIIIIIRAAAAA. TETSUOOOOOOOOO.

Just watched it, did little for me except creep me out in an uninteresting way. I'm also fresh from watching the TV series for the first time, and through it all I always felt that the brunt of its appeal was in Coop, and that in the end it was his story, not Laura's. So what scenes that had him in it are classic, everything else I didn't care for.

― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 03:40 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Robert Bauer
....
Johnny Horne (scenes deleted)

Joan Chen
....
Jocelyn "Josie" Packard (scenes deleted)

Jan D'Arcy
....
Sylvia Horne (scenes deleted)

Don S. Davis
....
Maj. Garland Briggs (scenes deleted)

Mary Jo Deschanel
....
Eileen Hayward (scenes deleted)

Warren Frost
....
Doc Hayward (scenes deleted)

Harry Goaz
....
Deputy Andy Brennan (scenes deleted)

Michael Horse
....
Deputy Hawk (scenes deleted)

David Patrick Kelly
....
Jerry Horne (scenes deleted)

Everett McGill
....
Big Ed Hurley (scenes deleted)

Jack Nance
....
Pete Martell (scenes deleted)

Michael Ontkean
....
Sheriff Harry S. Truman (scenes deleted)

Kimmy Robertson
....
Lucy Moran (scenes deleted)

Wendy Robie
....
Nadine Hurley (scenes deleted)

Charlotte Stewart
....
Betty Briggs (scenes deleted)

Russ Tamblyn
....
Dr. Lawrence Jacoby (scenes deleted)

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Where did all these scenes go? I like Harry Truman.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a theory abt this film which i shall share with you all tomorrow

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't make us wait!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even know what your theory is.

― dean? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It didn't have Sherilyn Fenn in it, which made me sad. But other than that it is fantastic.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen Amick.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

??? I'm not too keen on Madchen Amick (trying to figure out if you are correcting me or something?)

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Just stating an opinion.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh ok.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't like how it had swears in it.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the only reason I like it!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Same for Goodfellas, as well.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I even thought it was classic when I saw it before I saw the series.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that's key -- the series engaged in a lot of tv conventions, which appealed to me. The movie went ahead with movie conventions, leading to the stark division b/w the two.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

huh?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(p.s. just wanted to remind everyone that this film HAS A NIGHTCLUB SCENE WITH SUBTITLES FOR ENGLISH DIALOGUE.)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Love that scene. Love that music.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

lee, i'm wondering what you mean by "movie conventions" cos whatever this film is (and i'm not really sure), it's not particularly conventional. or so it seems to me.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Movie conventions = sexing and swearing.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Leee, those things were around before movies!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is where the deleted scenes are (or, are not):

PRESS RELEASE

TWIN PEAKS, FIRE WALK WITH ME
ON DVD DECEMBER 8TH MK2 EDITIONS

Since May 2002, fans from all over the world have been asking us to edit the original cut scenes from “Twin Peaks – Fire Walk With Me.”

As early as 2002, New Line, the American editor of the DVD, had tried to include these cut excerpts into its edition, but had been forced to give up for financial reasons.

We have tried several times to contact David Lynch and his associates to find a technical and financial solution to the problem.

We had thus stopped exporting the film worldwide in 2002 and 2003, and had delayed the French editing of the DVD.

Despite a few sporadic contacts, mail without answers and missing appointment on David Lynch’s side has made us take the decision not to deprive the French audience anymore from this major film that is also an important work in David Lynch’s filmography.

The DVD, to be released on December 8th 2004 in France, will thus be edited with as much care as any of the other MK2 products, but these cut scenes will unfortunately be missing.

We still hope – as all David Lynch fans worldwide do – to have these cut scenes included in a future version of the DVD, but this responsibility and willingness has to be shared by David Lynch himself.

MK2 Editions

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(dated five days ago, btw)

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Not on TV though!

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And goddammit, when oh when is the rest of the series gonna be out on DVD?

(FWMM = classic btw. Scary, funny and very moving all at the same time; I blub like a baby at the end, every time.)

― Mog, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't there something like 2 hours worth of david bowie and david edited it to the 30 secs we saw?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

backward bend threads my sometimes

― Queen G is not what he screams, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

where the hell is the season two DVD??

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

it's scheduled for Europe/Japan in Q2 of 2005. Adam has a dodgy bootleg of it that I don't trust.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i wrote a paper on fwwm in college, comparing it with iphigenia at aulis and the bluest eye. i'd like to see the film again, but i don't think i want to go back and read my essay.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Trust my bootleg. I wrote a paper on Dogme 95 that scarred me for life.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

what is "iphigenia at aulis" lauren?

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, it is not a bootleg, it is an official Spain-only release boxset of both series' and the pilot. No extras and the transfer varies wildly.

yes lauren, what is "iphigenia at aulis"?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

google tells me it's a play by euripides. lauren's all smart and shit.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Very good play at that. Would like to see a good production of it one of these days.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think "Iphigenia At Aulis" is the one where Agammemnon sacrifices his daughter Iphigenia to Poseidon to get favorable winds in order to set sail for Troy.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Lauren IS smart!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

agamemnon = leland
iphigenia = laura
poseidon = BOB

???

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

i never doubted it adam!

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No, i know. I was acting as a chorus!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The gods appear in many forms,
carrying with them unwelcome things.
What people thought would happen never did.
What they did not expect, the gods made happen.
That's what this story has revealed.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wrong about Poseidon, the deity in question is Artemis.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm trying to remember specifics of the paper, and failing. the only thing coming to mind is a bit from i used from the bluest eye, something about how he wanted to fuck her, but tenderly and then he wanted to wring her neck but also tenderly. i wrote most of it in a 10-hour adderol-fueled burst of insanity. the theme was sexual violence and the sacrifice of the daughter. go liberal arts!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

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When I replayed my Entire Mystery recently it was so bad I assumed my player was on the way out so bought a new one. Which, of course, didn't improve things.

(This was ok though, because it was my excuse to move up to 4K and finally start watching the UHDs I have.)

― Overtoun House windows (aldo), Monday, 24 March 2025 06:21 (one year ago)

So there's no way to know which blu-ray set is a bad batch before buying it?

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 March 2025 10:29 (one year ago)

No. There are two different issues, the audio lag and skipping (or getting stuck). I don't know if they're related. The first time I watched my set it had lag but no getting stuck. Or maybe it got stuck once. I assume the discs are degrading in some way. So maybe the later set (Z to A) is a little safer?

Or you can just wait for an inevitable 4k release.

― Cow_Art, Monday, 24 March 2025 11:02 (one year ago)

Z to A already has two 4K discs - seems unlikely they would reauthor the whole lot for a very marginal gain

― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 24 March 2025 12:18 (one year ago)

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