Theres prob loads of examples where co-opting the sufferings and injustices existing in the world is p gross, mra movement the most egregious of these ito widespread examples, agreed
― bachmansplain jenny turner overtalk (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:05 (twelve years ago)
wd you say you were against discussion of "issues" in general, or mainly objecting to the self-congratulatory tone of some of these discussions within ILX/the broader social context? given that the discussion of issues has the potential to generate some entertaining donnybrooks given the right circumstances how does that sit with your broader pro bust-up stance?
― thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:11 (twelve years ago)
mra is clearly a piece of shit though, said without knowing anything about the 'movement' beyond what pplains and others post here, but simply that for those relatively very few instances in which men suffer while an equivalent woman would not, it is illogical and grotesque to co-opt the language of minoritarian rights rather than the general right
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, November 18, 2013 12:01 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this is a t-bomb but i never really know when people are lib-baiting or being serious here any more
― Vic Arpeggio, Private Investigator (stevie), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:11 (twelve years ago)
No that is undoubtedly tbomb tbf stevie, even id allow that like
― bachmansplain jenny turner overtalk (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:14 (twelve years ago)
PHEWS
― Vic Arpeggio, Private Investigator (stevie), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:15 (twelve years ago)
xp another thread in itself nv, but not even the tone (and far less the issues/discussion) *deleted remainder here for sanity's sake tbh)
― bachmansplain jenny turner overtalk (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:23 (twelve years ago)
hey i was just feebly trying to generate content
― thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:25 (twelve years ago)
without having to actually, y'know, read reddit
― thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 12:26 (twelve years ago)
facebook, not reddit, but fits in with the men's rights ridicule itt. This crossed by path because a facebook friend of mine commented on it. NSFW, btw.
https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=389133887883254&set=gm.10152052681532329&type=1&theater
― how's life, Monday, 18 November 2013 13:05 (twelve years ago)
I mean id consider startin an mra thread but if im honest it would be more to annoy the ppl that it would annoy than i) to discuss mra or whatever (i dont think ilx is capable any longer of an interesting discussion on this or similar grey-area/devils advocate or w/e topics without the discussion itself being attacked and ii) i drgaf either
― bachmansplain jenny turner overtalk (darraghmac), Monday, November 18, 2013 6:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol ilx is too shallow to even appreciate these important devils advocate issues sniff
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 November 2013 14:24 (twelve years ago)
"pplains is a great fisherman"
Thanks guys!
*widens stance to hide barrel of fish behind him*
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)
xxp - is that a lost BC panel?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 18 November 2013 14:51 (twelve years ago)
these are vital devils advocate issues and we cannot let vicious attacks by the likes of lagoon divert us from them
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)
i think there are things to discuss about being a man - like how you relate to other men, how you feel about expressions of masculinity in society, how you relate to your father, or your son, etc - that are certainly worthy of discussion and not just bc they might inflame a clusterfuck. some of this will touch on things MRA are interested in - like whether men will submit themselves to physical harm or dmg bc of machismo or something similar. obv you can reduce any gender issue for anyone down to - omg the patriarchy blows - but some thinks are best discussed in nuance.
ot but i was just reminded of this and it's one of the most beautiful things i've ever heard (lol, 'beauty), rav soloveitchik has a comment on the part of the torah where potiphar's wife is trying to seduce joseph. it says that he looked out the window and saw the face of his father and that gave him the strength to resist the seduction. soleveitchik explains that he actually saw his own reflection in the glass, and saw in his features the features of his father. that it wasn't the vision of his father that dissuaded him from sinning, but rather the recognition that the lessons of his father were written into his very own physical features.
i guess i'm mentioning this bc i think (and this is true about bly as well) there are important things to discuss about being a man that aren't about minimizing feminist concerns, or stealing minority rhetoric to make yourself feel like a victim. the victim discourses are so asinine anyway, why replicate them? i'd rather talk about something new. obv this isn't the right thread for an ongoing conversation along this nature, but i think threads like this, or the man-blogging thread, have monopolized "man talk" such that even suggesting that men might have specific issues they want to discuss (at the very least we can talk about our prostates) becomes laughable.
― Mordy , Monday, 18 November 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)
tl;dr no goofy reddit shit let's get back on point
― mh, Monday, 18 November 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
I hope soleveitchik didn't get paid to explain that, because that seems pretty obvious to me.
― how's life, Monday, 18 November 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
Idk 'the father' being omnipresent when yr about to get yr rocks off is a runnin fuckin theme tbh
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)
then joseph runs outside and shoves his fingers into the sand and ejaculates through his fingertips.
^^ the rav didn't mention this but it is one of my most favorite midrashim.
― Mordy , Monday, 18 November 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of too, no Obi-wan-kanobi bullshit.
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
btw nv started a thread
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 18 November 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
We can talk about man stuff and relationships and have that drum circle or whatever any place, any time, but as soon as you start bringing in fedoras, katana swords and any sort of idea of being suppressed, than you're going to get reposted and laughed at on this thread, sorry.
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 17:49 (twelve years ago)
if someone starts that thread, plz name it I Love Sweat Lodges
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 18 November 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
can we talk more about ejaculating through our fingertips into sand?
― how's life, Monday, 18 November 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~dhouse/courses/2010/881/prop-reference/kevin/CountDooku-ForceLightning.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.
― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Monday, 18 November 2013 18:04 (twelve years ago)
maybe the sand was in someone's vagina, like a mens rights advocate's.
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)
lol owned
http://i.imgur.com/bH1ywrV.jpg
― My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Monday, 18 November 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
haw
― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Monday, 18 November 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
China is really into bitcoins now.
― pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 22:57 (twelve years ago)
Bitcoin Türkiye @bitcoin_turkiye 16 NovWorld's second bitcoin ATM opens in Istanbul Ataturk airport #travelersbox @bitcoinhaber http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qs2wy/travelers_box_in_istanbul_airport/ … pic.twitter.com/090mHp0NSi
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 November 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/bitcoin-scandal-reflects-popularity-of-virtual-currency-in-china/?_r=0
― 乒乓, Monday, 18 November 2013 23:25 (twelve years ago)
Tbf even the Bitcoin reddit thought the tipper was an asshole.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 00:51 (twelve years ago)
People at a Chinese restaurant haven't been keeping up with these reported trends in mainland China apparently, wtf
― mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 02:16 (twelve years ago)
http://static.adzerk.net/Advertisers/5af77cf0094d4303bb308b955dd05992.jpg
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/ca/c3/cac326_4607848.jpg
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/VBEqQve.png
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:17 (twelve years ago)
woww
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:18 (twelve years ago)
no btc no credibility
― goole, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
£ all i really needed to see there.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
http://31.media.tumblr.com/68aa249eb2181c759bb5bcc6df25cf40/tumblr_mwja3iGH7D1ragdrho1_1280.png
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7PvtbkH0I (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)
important source of enlightened opinionshttp://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1radd4/woman_hits_man_man_hits_her_back/
― cozen, Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
I have always had the philosophy that once a women throws a punch she wants to be treated as a equal and will get the same response I would give any man
- Fedora Wearing Witness
Equal rights, equal lefts.
- Fedora Wearing Witness #2
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 23 November 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)
i'm not reading that but can only imagine what these guys would give to "justifiably" hit a woman
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 November 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
Richard Dawkins AMA, top comment from FistedYourSister. Jesus.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)
like any of these dudes are gonna throw a punch in their lives
― i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
Richard, no question here, just wanted you to know that your book God Delusion gave me the courage to stand up to my deeply religious parents and fist my sister. For that I’m forever thankful.
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:45 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/imgur-the-biggest-little-site-in-the-world/281872
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)
its funny if you ever read the imgur comments they are exactly the same style as reddit, i was unsure until i read that piece whether or not they were just being pulled off reddit or what, btw that article is written by someone who is in way too deep
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:38 (twelve years ago)
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/newsroom/img/posts/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-03%20at%2011.29.05%20AM.png
:-( at sheep not having secret ballot.
― New York City Garden(?) (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)