Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Oh, you said that awready. x-post

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:06 (seventeen years ago)

While the image of the "Peeping Tom" may seem quintessentially British

Eh?

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:07 (seventeen years ago)

Emine Saner is a pretty good journalist and is not a major offender in the Daddy, I Want A Pony byline pic stakes ('winner': V. Coren).

A few of the actresses I've interviewed say they would be a-OK with paparazzi as an occupational hazard if they did not do this, and they've been calling it upskirt for YEARS.

Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:12 (seventeen years ago)

Peeping Tom is on ITV at midnight tonight, watch and learn.

Reflex Gaffney (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:15 (seventeen years ago)

Everyone has been calling it upskirt for YEARS.

Reflex Gaffney (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:15 (seventeen years ago)

Peeping Tom is on ITV at midnight tonight, watch and learn.

It's a filthy German who does it though

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:16 (seventeen years ago)

also the "self-conscious white guy writes about rap" story that dom posted on his blog (dunno if it's in here as well) is up for worst piece of journalism of the decade, def a lock for the top 5

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 February 2009 09:53 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The thing is, if you were trying to come up with, Onion-style, a fake name for a self-conscious white indie music critic trying to demonstrate knowledge of rap, "Louis Pattison" is pretty close to what you'd end up with.

LBZC will henceforth be referring to him as Lpattz.

Eerie, Indierocker (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:17 (seventeen years ago)

I think it might be a bit late for Coren to ask for the pony.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:37 (seventeen years ago)

There's nothing wrong with that Saner byline picture you fucking weirdos.

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:39 (seventeen years ago)

YEOOOOOOWCH. xpost

I think the 'weird' thing is that she's cute, blonde and doing a job certain people here quite covet.

Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

She's stunning!

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:49 (seventeen years ago)

I worry for her somehow - maybe cos she's so stunning. All the inferior envious scumbags should leave her alone.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:50 (seventeen years ago)

moderator, nu-godwins

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:52 (seventeen years ago)

Upskirt top ranking

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ Thank fuck for the voice of reason.

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:54 (seventeen years ago)

Give that man a byline pic

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

I love this:

It is impossible to judge how many women have been victims of upskirting,

i.e. the cross reference for people who need "women" explaining to them...

Mark G, Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

Stuff a Canon up my crack an' ting...

Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Thursday, 26 February 2009 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

All those thrusting Thatcherkids are too busy going bust to find out what "women" are!

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:00 (seventeen years ago)

While the image of the "Peeping Tom" may seem quintessentially British

Eh?

OrigiNAL Peeping Tom that fellow who went blind looking at Lady Godiva?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:17 (seventeen years ago)

But Lady Godiva wasn't wearing a skirt...

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:23 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think she even existed did she?

If she did though and she had been wearing a skirt no doubt some pervy Englsihman would have tried to make a drawing of it and sold it down the market.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:26 (seventeen years ago)

She did, but there is no contemporary report of her riding naked through Coventry.

Eerie, Indierocker (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

No wonder, she did it ages ago.

Mark G, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

Mediaeval paparazzi sleeping on the job there

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:30 (seventeen years ago)

It was a three month journey up from London on perilous roads to be fair.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:38 (seventeen years ago)

How did the story about her riding naked develop? Did some kind of historical fanfic writer come up with it?

Alba, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

It was a three month journey up from London on perilous roads to be fair.

Ending up in Coventry too.

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

Also there was an even more famous noblewoman dying of cancer in Northampton at the same time.

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

You mean Lady Jade?

Mark G, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:45 (seventeen years ago)

One of those leeches vs. lechers editorial decisions

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:45 (seventeen years ago)

The Department of Health figures (one in five will have tried cannabis by the age of 15) insist use is falling in Britain. That's not how it feels in south London - or, presumably, south Manchester or south Glasgow. Here, it feels like everyone has had a toke by the age of 15. Of these, only some will become regular users. For most of them, it is a Saturday-night high and nothing more. But for some, it becomes unshakeable.

cozwn, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:51 (seventeen years ago)

Is that Julie Myerson?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/10/cannabis-drug-abuse

the comments on that bad boy are ace; did someone mobilise the national cannabis crew or something?

"This is the worst self indulgent middle class non angst Ive ever had the misfortune to read. You have no idea of real pain, or grief. Your faux desire to help others whilst undoubtably pocketing an advance and profit from sales proves what is is wrong with the kid of the UK today. Their narcissistic parents. You could learn a thing or two from your teenage son. Listen to him"

cozwn, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

btw no it doesn't feel like that in south London

I have hardly ever seen cannabis

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

yeah in south glasgow it doesn't feel like that all that much either

cozwn, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

she was on Newsnight last night and I just wound up thinking, what is the point of all this public angsting? go away and do whatever you do in private. maybe she is too used to being looked at and on camera etc by this point

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

drugs are for idiots tbqh, but j-myer is one of the worst newsnight review people of all time. in a hotly contested field of shite.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

agree about the field

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

and sort of about her
but it's so hotly contested!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

I agree drugs are for idiots and also about j-dogg; perhaps a... poll is in order?

cozwn, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:01 (seventeen years ago)

who do we have

kwame
eshun
greer
morley
john harris
the tory guy
myerson

??

cozwn, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

j-myer is one of the worst newsnight review people of all time. in a hotly contested field of shite

Amen to that. She's a contmeptible airhead. Don't agree about drugs being for idiots.

Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

I read a newspaper article about all this and I can say flat-out that her decision to write about what she did is truly, truly repulsive. Typical sheltered North London entitlement-seeker?

they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

the tory guy

michael gove. yeah, maybe he is worse.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

(xp) There's hundreds of the buggers

Tom Paulin occasionally? Slowly turning into a giant CREASE?
Asian guy with big hair.
Michael Gove *vomit*
Jolly Northern poet bloke.
Horsey looking American blonde.
Small Asian woman with short hair who I saw in Archway a few weeks back.
That Lionel woman, novelist who wears gloves indoors.

etc etc

Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

Does Paulin do Newsnight Review anymore? Haven't watched it for yeeeears.

x-post

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

i will never, ever understand people who air their dirty laundry in public, or even just opening up their private lives to the world at all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'm glad someone mentioned this because I wanted to scream and throw things at the television. She railed that none of her critics had read the book; Paxman said he had. She knows damn well that most reviewers will have had it for a month or so so frankly, does not wash. Contemptible woman.

My family have given me permission to write about every single last bit of weird shit that has ever happened to us but if any of them objected at draft stage I'd have to reconsider my structure.

We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

Well, there are levels. Writing a book explicitly describing your own son as a drug-addict psychopath and then courting all the publicity you can about it seems like quite a dicey way to go about winning friends/influencing people. xp

they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:09 (seventeen years ago)


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