everybody on ilx complains about reddit

See, even in that, I feel like some dude was just trolling.

I mean, these guys can't be real, right?

an MRA goes on a date he's obv gonna wear his best fedora and make a point to support TRUE EQUAL RIGHTS by making her buy him a latte

it makes sense

"i agree, fedoras are ridiculous, all these other guys never know when they're supposed to wear them"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3f9b6462f13210e58a8368086e7b2ee/tumblr_mm1f06RxO91qb01n4o1_500.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0RIDM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4DSLT.png

These guys are an easy target

Speaking of easy targets

Dunno how seriously those dudes want to be taken – they remind me of teenage friends of yesteryear who'd have a belt made to look like an ammo belt or a 3D skull t-shirt. Or my own spiky tribal necklaces! But people adopting Men's Rights Activism as a look seems like it might be more dangerous in real terms than people adopting Satanism as a look.

I think they are more dangerous because MRA ideology just magnifies prejudices and resentments that are present in a lot of men. I just don't understand where the hats fit in.

Its terrible the way stuff etc

Hats = shade the eyes, make you look like someone from the old world of noir and westerns, back when people were serious = hats make you serious

Satanism has not actually killed anyone in the 21st century as far as I know – well, maybe a few loners have, but not as an organised ideology – whereas MRA encourages members to have opinions on things such as rape law and how to live your life

is what I would say if I were trying to dodge an assertion that MRA kids are no worse than Satan kids and we're all getting in a flap over nothing

If it was about looking like bogart why dont these dudes wear suits or in general become #menswear bros? Something is off about this aesthetic

Satanism has not actually killed anyone in the 21st century as far as I know – well, maybe a few loners have, but not as an organised ideology – whereas MRA encourages members to have opinions on things such as rape law and how to live your life

ilx

ilx wtf happened u

ilx can u even hear me

*weeps*

If it was about looking like bogart why dont these dudes wear suits or in general become #menswear bros? Something is off about this aesthetic

It's the grasping after classic men's style, but from a position of internet-enabled immersion in the infantile, cartoons, videogames and porn (which is a kind of cartoon): also, the sedentary tendency in the information economy contributes to this distance from their hazily-seen ideals, old-school 50s men who may have seen service in a war.

All this creates the uncanny effect.

Either that or we're ascribing dodgy value systems to people based on their headwear and thus innocuous things become, to us, symptoms of a deeper malaise

I think my first para up there applies here, at least:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3f9b6462f13210e58a8368086e7b2ee/tumblr_mm1f06RxO91qb01n4o1_500.jpg

It's that pale, wobbly flesh and the coat and hat that look too big for him. And also that that looks like a real knife, although the gun is a water pistol?

went to mens-rights-usa.net and it tried to install malware

They are at a playground for children call the police

went to mens-rights-usa.net and it tried to install malware

first read that as 'went to mens etc and tried to install malware' and I was all 'like this guy's style'

also he doesn't know he's supposed to remove the label sewn on the sleeve before wearing it

always bums me out when i see someone out in public with a sleeve label still sewn on

oh jesus, how did I not notice that

that's mortifying

Just the thought process... "Fedora? Check. Smart overcoat? I'm wid it, best make sure people can see the label so they know this is the real deal. What else? Hmmm... maybe jeans and a band t-shirt, just to really y'know, nail that Mad Men look"

i've got a white hat i got in nola that i like to wear to synagogue sometimes during the summer; it makes me feel dapper

^ trying to provide some insight into the hat-wearing community

Hatsplaining

Oh shit I just got a new coat and it has a small label on the cuff I didn't know I was supposed to remove it wtf is it there for in the first place this is why I hate fashion :(

i remember telling someone who still had the label on their suit jacket and i felt awful

totally fine to tell people that look ridic with the bottom suit button fastened though

i once bought a pair of timberlands at bloomingdales (iirc) and the sales representative told me that i was supposed to keep the tag on for aesthetic reasons. i did not.

i wear all my clothes backwards

this is veering into the territory of the Key and Peele hat sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ZM0-f5_CU

lag∞n is the daddy mac

Oh shit I just got a new coat and it has a small label on the cuff I didn't know I was supposed to remove it wtf is it there for in the first place this is why I hate fashion :(

is the vent(s) on the back sewn together with a big X-shaped stitch too?

can you put your hands in the pockets?

a) shit, yes they are
b) yes, I'm not THAT stupid
c) seriously why do they sew a label on the cuff if it's not supposed to be there?

Because when you're browsing them in the store the brand is prominently displayed on the outer-facing sleeve on the rack?

so when you're shopping for it in a rack filled with coats from other brands you know who made it without having to delve inside

also because fashion has weird rules & traditions and this is just one of them.

xpost

Just the thought process... "Fedora? Check. Smart overcoat? I'm wid it, best make sure people can see the label so they know this is the real deal. What else? Hmmm... maybe jeans and a band t-shirt, just to really y'know, nail that Mad Men look"

yeah it seems distinct from the cognitive dissonance caused by seeing a kid in a suit or some other fully adult look. like, the combination of old fashioned masculinity and their adolescent arrested development causes a mish-mash that makes it look like a bad costume, playing at being something both they and everyone who sees them knows they are not.

what's especially interesting is that it seems to no longer be a derivative look but kind of it's own "thing"--maybe if you really wanted to analyze it more deeply you'd say they are laying claim to a certain style from a past era but only just enough to show they are not fully identifying with it.

was going to posit the idea that men's rights activists ought to be men

xpost: almost as if the very artificiality of the costume is meant to highlight their supposed authenticity and free-thinkingness.

http://i.imgur.com/KpuHDlO.jpg

lol

man does that have something to do with the spread of those awful shoes too?

certain Fedora dudes seem like they might've been duster dudes back in the 90s

when i was in yeshiva i used to wear a borsalino pretty much 24/7

http://cdn-ugc.cafemom.com/gen/min/200/200/80/2011/05/02/14/1p/1z/pomqswtfz41couh.gif

by certain you mean all, right?