itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

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I guess it's grey and black. Cool

Number None, Monday, 11 November 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

Zack Snyder's ear for dialogue is second only to Helen Keller's.

polyphonic, Monday, 11 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jesse-eisenberg-cast-as-lex-676043

And Jeremy Irons as Alfred.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

omg

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

they are seriously going to introduce a new batman, new alfred, new wonder woman and new lex luthor in one movie

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

in one superman movie

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

like, imagine if The Avengers came out a year after Thor, with no Captain America movie and a recast Iron Man.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

I hope they go full camp. Who is the modern Schumacher?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

make it stop

Who is the modern Schumacher?

Snyder iirc

Eisenberg is actually an interesting choice, but there's no way this won't just be a massive shitshow.

Simon H., Friday, 31 January 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

it doesn't matter who gets cast because Snyder will find a way to make them boring.

polyphonic, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

^^^^

this could be all my favorite actors working now and I still wouldn't see it, Snyder is a horrorshow

dc/warner bros is so drowning in marvel/disney envy that they're going to just lump all their iconic figures in one movie just ONE film into the specific universe (unless ryan reynolds gonna fly through for a cameo). they're basically going to try a sony spider-man-style reboot INSIDE of an underbaked Avengers. jesus christ.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

yup

altho this is the first I heard of Wonder Woman showing up in this

Gal Gadot announced as WW late last year.

i love that they're bumping this back a year but don't have any dc universe films planned for the interim. Apparently, they will give us nothing but gossip about script problems and bad buzz in 2015.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

they hamstrung themselves with the previous Batman flicks imo, which were obviously huge blockbusters but also never intended to be universe-building-blocks a la the Marvel movies. trying to play catch-up like this is just sad. especially on the back of Man of Shit.

part of the problem for them was also green lantern bombing - i do wonder how the build-up to the avengers would have gone if say Thor had been a turkey.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link

i mean was the executive who said "just let nolan do what he wants for TDKR, we'll just rooty toot reboot two years later, spidey style" and the executive who said "shit look at what marvel's doing, we gotta have an avengers fast!" the same executive?

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah, GL was kind of an odd choice to lead with.

Who is the modern Schumacher?

Ryan Murphy?

MarkoP, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

What else were they gonna lead with though? Flash? Martian Manhunter? Said it before but DC has the #1 & #2 heroes and then Marvel has like #3-15.

wouldn't it have been better to have Gordon-Levitt show up as The New Batman and allow SOME degree of continuity with their established world, rather than ask us to accept a new batman before we're even totally on board with supes?

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

yeah the nolan stuff really is an obstacle for them whereas even though it's not a shared cinematic universe or whatever if hugh jackman's wolverine or some white guy's spiderman showed up in the avengers they would fit right in.

balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

even if they do manage to make a decent hit out of this, marvel's gonna be all "hey bats vs supes, cool story, bro, fyi we're sitting on so many millions that we're actually making an ant-man movie cuz fuck it"

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

Flash? Martian Manhunter?

Superman is the obvious choice, except they'd screwed the pooch on that one too

but fwiw I think Flash would have been better than GL. An inherently more fun, more relatable (and probably better known) superhero

GL would have been great if they'd actually harnessed the visual possibilities of the ring (shame Marvel already had their mitts on Edgar Wright) instead of making a murky movie with more grumpy CGI aliens then inventive action sequences. And yeah, Flash would have been good but with TWO movies starring Quicksilver coming out before Batsvssupes he may get shunted to the CW like Hawkeye I mean Green Arrow.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

it's kinda funny that they had whedon work on a wonder woman movie for awhile and then shelved it cuz they decided the smart thing to do w/ that property was to make it a david kelly tv lawyer drama.

balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

hahaha dc just fucking up left and right

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

man marvel's stable is so good they've got fox and sony sending them checks on the reg for franchises they don't want to let go of, while dc's just gonna take a big dump in 2016 and hope we like it cuz otherwise they got nothin.

oh wait there is joseph gordon levitt's sandman

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

it bums me out cuz I find the DC stuff so much more inherently interesting than Marvel

They should just trash it all and do a Jack Kirby's New Gods adaptation. Ving Rhames as Darkseid, Ryan Reynolds as Mister Miracle, Tom Cruise as Metron, Meryl Streep as Granny Goodness.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/a-look-at-all-the-dc-comics-films-rumored-and-in-development/

lol according to this they're thinking about breaking Flash out of a Justice League movie shot back-to-back with SupesVsBats...but there's also a CW show coming out this fall.

a constantine pilot's also been ordered by nbc. jesus, how is it that half the stuff on this page is from vertigo?

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

ed asner will always be the definitive granny goodness

balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

"jesse eisenberg as lex luthor" is trending, alot of ppl thinking it's a random choice apparently. yeah, jesse eisenberg as some smart, arrogant asshole - what is that gonna be like?

balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

lol Phil

i haven't watched smallville but jesse eisenberg feels like a very smallville choice - wish they'd picked someone like joaquin phoenix, who actually scans older than superman.

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

supes vs big business rather than some fuckin' internet start-up kid

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

also I REALLY wanted to see Joaquin with a shaved head

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

supes vs big business rather than some fuckin' internet start-up kid

um

What happened to the "Justice League" movie?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

supposedly being shot back-to-back with batsvssupes, esp now that that's been pushed back to 2016

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

And we all know Lex will be some super-genius nihilist hacker in this, right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

shakey not sure if you're "um" is in regards to facebook being big business, i just mean lex should be like an oil tycoon imo

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

superman flying into this window to slam the CEO against the wall

http://cdn.home-designing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tumblr-newyork-office.jpg

da croupier, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

shakey not sure if you're "um" is in regards to facebook being big business

yeah mostly. I would be cool with Superman smashing some Google shit

A friend just suggested Shia LeBeouf as the Joker, and why not.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

GL would have been great if they'd actually harnessed the visual possibilities of the ring

Yeah I don't think the problem was picking a relatively low profile hero (how many members of the general public seriously gave a shit about Iron Man in 2007?) it was making a crap movie.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link


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