American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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I don't either. So he's plagiarizing shitty received ideas?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-1105-tsa-guns-20131105,0,3754764.story#axzz2jndfErxQ

this was bound to end well one way or another

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

the subheading kinda says it all:

Airport security experts note the cost and risk of arming TSA officers. The Airport Police chief says more officers in the terminal wouldn't have necessarily saved lives.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)

funny i think we just found the one american population the right absolutely doesn't want to see armed.

goole, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)

haha teabaggers complaining about the jack booted tsa thugs and their 'obamaguns'

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/05/the_seduction_of_george_w_bush_by_vladimir_putin (you can read it w/out sub'ing by googling headline 'the seduction of george w bush')

So when he sat down with Putin in a 16th-century castle in Slovenia in June of that year, he was predisposed to find a partner in the former KGB man even before his counterpart told him about saving his Orthodox cross from a dacha fire, a story appealing to Bush's faith. Bush's later public comment noting that he had gotten a "sense of his soul" disturbed many inside his own team. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice stiffened even as he said it, worried that the answer might be too effusive -- but she said nothing. Back in Washington, Vice President Dick Cheney and his staff were even more bothered. "A lot of us were kind of rolling our eyes about that," Eric Edelman, then the vice president's deputy national security adviser, recalled later. Every time Cheney saw Putin, he privately told people, "I think KGB, KGB, KGB."

Mordy , Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:05 (twelve years ago)

I wonder what Biden thinks every time he sees Putin.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:25 (twelve years ago)

"amtrak, amtrak, amtrak"

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)

"Wow, when did he win a Super Bowl?"

pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)

Meanwhile, it's a rather tight race for the VA governor job.

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:05 (twelve years ago)

don't give a shit about either piece of shit

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:12 (twelve years ago)

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/05/2893001/enda-work/

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) are trying to attach a national so-called “right-to-work” law to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), according to Roll Call. The two filed an amendment connecting ENDA to the anti-union measure hours before the discrimination ban passed a key hurdle on its way to its first floor vote in the Senate in six years. The proposal would effectively require workers to trade protections from discrimination on the basis of sexuality and gender identity for their rights to strong union protections from other employer abuses.

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:12 (twelve years ago)

don't give a shit about either piece of shit

Such venom! Such accuracy!

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:13 (twelve years ago)

LOL @ FOX News completely ignoring the governor races to allow Brit Hume space to dismiss the ACA.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)

if you feel like staying up all night, keep an eye on the nuttiest election going: minneapolis mayor! 35 names on the ballot! ranked choice voting! less than 40% turnout!

http://live.startribune.com/Event/Election_Day_2013

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:52 (twelve years ago)

Libertarian vote is saving Virginia from Cucinelli.

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:53 (twelve years ago)

(st. paul's election is dull in comparison, there was a KURT "DIRTY KURTY" DORNFELD" on the ballot)

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:55 (twelve years ago)

are you up there in the Twin Cities goole?

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:59 (twelve years ago)

yup! why, you a friends of kurt's?

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)

lol no! lived there in the 80s and 90s tho

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:01 (twelve years ago)

love that town, sorry to derail the amazing thread and news the McAullife won

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:01 (twelve years ago)

yeah, it is pretty nice.

feeling this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYWy543CMAInIcD.jpg

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

"Get Ken's hands out of my womb!"

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:07 (twelve years ago)

i like to think in that shot instead of his prepared remarks someone handed him a printout from nifty.org

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)

I'm laughing every time 'huge' and 'expansive' used about Chris Christie because I'm an asshole.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)

lol

j., Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:18 (twelve years ago)

man it's pretty fucked up that terry mcauliffe is governor of anywhere

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:25 (twelve years ago)

impeach any governor who aims for Alton Brown cred

http://nakeddc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Terry-McAuliffee.jpeg

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:27 (twelve years ago)

this means VA will expand medicaid now, right?

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:35 (twelve years ago)

man 2014 ain't looking good

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:48 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure that I have sold kurt dornfeld a guitar actually. He seemed like a person who bought a guitar from me I guess *memories*

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:15 (twelve years ago)

just hung out at the Cuccinelli concession party in va, pretty sweet vibes, brassy republicans looking p deflated, also republicans look like guys with pagers irl

(ko komo) (schlump), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:20 (twelve years ago)

man it's pretty fucked up that terry mcauliffe is governor of anywhere

― goole, Wednesday, November 6, 2

Morbs Jr., he is the lesser of 2 evils

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:21 (twelve years ago)

well, that's why!

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:36 (twelve years ago)

he is the lesser of 2 evils

Paid for by Robot Democrats Forever

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 13:18 (twelve years ago)

I wonder what Biden thinks every time he sees Putin.

― the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:25 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"amtrak, amtrak, amtrak"

― balls, Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:53 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

boxcar boxcar boxcar

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

Paid for by Robot Democrats Forever

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius),

I guess I should have written New Yorker you in, since there is no Purist Virginia Left-wing party.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:38 (twelve years ago)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_11/counterpolarizing_the_social_s047664.php

Finally a bit of attention on Capitol Hill for Social Security ideas that are usually just mentioned on blogs and online forums

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:19 (twelve years ago)

I get how you can be mad at DINOs on the national stage, or in traditionally Dem areas. But how can you be mad that the new governor of Virginia is not a purist?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)

top 5 scummiest Friend of Bill = "not a purist"

oh, that purity noun, more uses than a Swiss Army knife

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)

But is that still not massively better than tea party? And would you expect anything better in Virginia?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

think the point is lament that a Clinton bootlicker is the best we can expect in Virginia

Euler, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)

exactly

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

no mcauliffe's a special case, the worst face of clintonism i can think of (worse than rahm, worse than bowles). if it was against a more generic anodyne republican i almost wouldn't have minded if he'd lost. even then i'm not sure, i'd rather have cuccinelli as governor of virginia than as a us senator which could happen if he runs (which ppl were urging him to do) and obamacare's as toxic an issue as it was this year. he also won't have ew jackson down ticket hurting him. as it was that virginia race was like a less toxic, less charismatic of edwards vs duke. virginia governors are limited to one term only anyway.

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

i mean douglas wilder was better than mcauliffe, tim kaine was better than mcauliffe, mark warner was better than mcauliffe. and those guys won when virginia was a pretty solidly red state. it's the definition of a purple state now so settling for a dlc lightweight like mcauliffe wasn't the equivalent of accepting yr john barrows and heath shulers cuz blue dogs are the only dems that stand a chance in the rural south. i'm guessing the money and the possibility of clinton stumping scared off challengers but how he wasn't the number one net target for a primary is beyond me.

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)

I get most of that, but I don't get the senator vs governor thing. Another tea party senator, big deal. But as governor, he could block implementation of ACA, and promote more restrictive voting laws. Couldn't he be doing a lot more damage as governor?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)

Also, according to NYT, normally Virginia votes for the opposite of who is in the White House, has done for the last 36 years, as I recall. As such, it's sort of a victory, seeing how contested Obama's policies have been.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)

another tea party senator (which btw there aren't really that many now but there are enough and cruz was right w/ his 'now there are only three or four of us but when there are ten or twenty of us we can really start to shrink the govt' calculation) who could sit in that for god knows how long and be a factor in the dems losing the senate next year vs the status quo in the va governor's mansion for four more years.

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)

But then, if tea party is 'status quo' in va, isn't it good that the dems won, even though he's a scumbag?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)

god guys 31 PERCENT of liberals voted for Christie. Who are they? Smoke'em out.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:24 (twelve years ago)


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