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Saw Lego Yoda today I was most impressed

how's life, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

Need more atheist billboards, tbh.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:08 (twelve years ago)

I dont believe in these fedora atheists there i said it

Yeah I think that hat and that beard are just things that were fashionable among people who might go on the internet, and some of these people were also members of certain groups on the internet.

Paedophiles are also supposed to wear fedoras and neckbeards according to the mythology, as are legalistic friend-zone disputants. These groups being lumped together under the fedora is what makes me think the hat might not be a good category or reference point.

cardamon, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)

Also I think it's relevant to this discussion that, AFAIK, average age of a reddit poster is 28. If all these people on reddit were just teenagers, I don't think I'd feel it very pressing to talk about them/attack them

cardamon, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)

Pedophiles wear clown suits, get your generalizations straight.

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:17 (twelve years ago)

mental age ain't nuthin' but a number

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)

Need more general superstition/supernatural billboards:

Bigfoot? Could be. Lots of trees to hide behind out there.

how's life, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)

I was playing GTA5 online this weekend and got put on a team during a deathmatch with two dudes wearing fedoras and suits.

Had to ask myself again," Ok, so now what are you doing with your life?"

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)

lol our Joel's GTA Online posse wanted to fedora up and he politely suggested maybe they cd choose their own hats

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/SIGLQIa.jpg

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)

The stigma against those hats is hilarious. Probably for the best as they look idiotic in 2013 but still

Treeship, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)

mahatma quoth

midwife christless (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

I don't think there's anyone that can pull it off anymore.

There must've been a moment in 1894 when a man showed up at a gathering with a beaverskin hat and got laughed at, all the while as he exclaimed, "but it was cool when Davy Crockett wore one!"

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)

the gap between the intent to project sophisticated masculinity and the actual impression that it makes just gets wider and wider. i feel bad for fedoras more than anything.

ryan, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/NiGzOHq.gif

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:49 (twelve years ago)

they'll come back round again, perhaps, when they're disassociated from callow white entitled youth

maybe

come to think of it, bowlers and toppers never really came back round except for douchebags

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

Are hats always bad?

cardamon, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

yes

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

guys if we're going to be off-topic itt can we at least lol @ dawkins honey

the ship has sailed on me quoting this but I really wanted to because it's hilarious and OTM

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)

also I could totally look good wearing a fedora but I choose not to because I know they've been co-opted by evil

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)

Are hats always bad?

reddit morelike http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)

I posted pplains' neckbearded atheist on Twitter and he is pretty popular; I've gotten more retweets than when I congratulated some random Republican representative on being worse than the president of Iran.

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:47 (twelve years ago)

have we verified if that quote was made in earnest by either the guy in the photo or anyone at all? it's really out there.

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)

like, atheists will try to appropriate the language of oppression to gain sympathy no doubt, but to attempt to fully steal that language from actually oppressed groups represents a new phase or something

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:52 (twelve years ago)

lol no it doesn't

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)

as an admittedly privileged member of a minority group that is often oppressed, I cannot tell you the number of times over my life that some random white dude has tried to tell me that they were obviously more oppressed than me, ergo by extension they were more oppressed than every black person in America

the only difference is ppl now have the technology at their disposal to make this shit permanent until the global EMP hits

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)

This is all that shows up in a Google search for 'I cry tears of hilarity'. That 4chan page won't open up and that's where I have my suspicions.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:06 (twelve years ago)

i guess so djp. i think there is a difference between saying "i am white and male but ______ some women and black people are better off than me why should i have to feel bad huh" and "i cry tears of hilarity in the faces of all minority groups". the former is trying to appeal to the logic minorities use to describe their own oppression while the latter pretends this logic has no historical origin, and is just taking it as a starting point to describe their own myopic, self-pitying worldview. it seems like a parody, i guess

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)

there are for sure tons wites that hold said view but that macro def seems like a goof, the picture and all

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)

a quality goof mind you

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)

fwiw I am not saying the pic isn't a parody; I'm saying that I have had white ppl (usually dudes, drunk) tell me directly to my face that they are more oppressed than black ppl because I went to Harvard

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

drunk dudes have real problems saying "intersectionality" probly

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

tbf going to harvard is a pretty big detriment xp

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

where does a black harvard grad with a beemer fit in it is p confusing tho, do you ever feel like you are making it a little unnecessarily complicated mayne

midwife christless (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

it's a DJP world

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)

oh shit i meant to post that john barnes article from the graniaud but rly who neesd the hassle

midwife christless (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)

insherschexsionalishy

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

tbf, djp has in the past made me laugh tears of hilarity.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

This thread is more evidence why I don't bother using the term "atheist". A more descriptive term for me is "skeptic", but even that is being similarly branded like it is a club. So I've settled with calling myself a skeptical person which covers everything well enough- because I don't have to ever categorize myself- either we're talking in depth about our beliefs or mine vs. yours and you'll learn everything about what I think at that point. Labeling with "atheism" is just going to get the entirety of whatever you happen to think that means mixed in with what I actually think before and after I get to explain myself unless I am lucky enough to isolate and explain each discrepancy.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

I've simply chosen to live an unexamined life

mario chalmers of ilx (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)

Cuz Netflix

mario chalmers of ilx (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)

I like "secular sort of dude"

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

secularmingle.com

mario chalmers of ilx (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)

It's funny that saying "I'm an atheist" and "I don't believe in gods" can give much different impressions yet it takes the same amount of energy to say either. And since it doesn't make anything easier in conversation (or even if you'd just like to have the opinion printed on a mug) to call yourself an atheist, you're lumped in with the "atheist movement" with a very set of shared non-beliefs ("ism" doesn't help) just by using the word.

It isn't the fault of the word though, really. People make jokes that there isn't a word for a non-golfer or something, but when subscribing to a belief in gods is such an ingrained aspect of humanity for so long a word to describe the minority category is deserved. The word doesn't exist to describe a church of anti-divine authority activists.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:46 (twelve years ago)

I've considered myself an atheist since I was like 12, why stop now

polyphonic, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)

Just like Christians, Muslims, et. al., there are atheists you can hang out with and there are atheists who doing it wrong.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

just like there are people who can write in the English language and then there are people who me.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)

the thing about any belief (and even a "belief in non-belief" doesn't escape from this) is that once it is asserted it will automatically carry along other beliefs. we are all occupied with securing a coherent system of beliefs which agree with each other. this can be tricky of course since most of us will find, if pressed, that we are incoherent in some respects.

atheism is no different. if you say you dont believe in God you are implicitly endorsing a whole host of other beliefs. you've created a "belief system" and that system will have vulnerabilities.

now, i think there's a particular tradition of atheism which derives from TH Huxley, Robert Ingersoll and those types and has been revived by Hitchens, Dawkins, et al. This is primarily what people are targeting when they criticize atheism today.

you can, of course, say that your atheism doesn't belong to that tradition. I would say this about my own atheism (such as it is). you could be a buddhist atheist! or anything really.

but in my opinion you can't simply say "i don't believe" and leave it at that because that's a very quick way to adopt a whole lot of unexamined assumptions. your beliefs will organize themselves into systems with or without your consent. what bothers me about this "opt out" style of "passive atheism" (i've just coined that word) is that it's bad at examining its own implicit beliefs--whether or not i would agree with those beliefs or not.

ryan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)

reverse-img-srched the persecuted atheist pic

first hit?

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=neckbeard‎

goole, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)


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