American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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good gnus, Obomber officially a lame duck! Dems bored already like you presidential speculators.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/11/schumer-endorses-hillarys-nonexistent-campaign.html

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:10 (twelve years ago)

morbs how much of a hardon did you get when yr boy challenged rachel maddow to a duel this weekend?

balls, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:38 (twelve years ago)

I don't have a boy, scrotum of filth, nor follow the hot cable news news

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

answer the question

balls, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)

penis

forbz (Matt P), Monday, 4 November 2013 03:17 (twelve years ago)

Paul initially addressed the claims last week, admitting that he "borrowed" from the films in question but insisting that he "gave credit."

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 November 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)

Mentioning the name of the film you're describing is not the same as saying "this synopsis I just gave you is lifted virtually wholesale from Wikipedia."

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)

The Democratic party often refuses to support their own members on principle, so I guess that's not a surprise. But you'd think they would have at least seen some value in helping Buono damage this creep who's now going to be considered some kind of juggernaut going into the presidential election. I guess they like him too.

If you live in New Jersey please make a point of voting tomorrow and casting your vote for Barbara Buono. Chris Christie winning by 20 points is not good for America, particularly American women. Yuck.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2013/11/chris-christie-creep-too-many-democrats.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:17 (twelve years ago)

Yes:

What has happened, predictably, is that in at least 17 states where Republicans are in charge, a variety of roadblocks has been thrown in front of these folks. In Indiana, they were required to pay fees of $175. In Florida, which under Governor Rick Scott (who knows a thing or two about how to game the health-care system, you may recall) has been probably the most aggressive state of all here, the health department ruled that local public-health offices can’t have navigators on their premises (interesting, because local public health offices tend to be where uninsured people hang out). In West Virginia, Utah, Pennsylvania, and other states, grantees have said no thanks and returned the dough after statewide GOP elected officials started getting in their faces and asking lots of questions about how they operate and what they planned to do. Tennessee issued “emergency rules” requiring their employees to be fingerprinted and undergo background checks...

The administration’s cockups are a legitimate story. I’ve never said otherwise. My first column about the website was quite tough on the administration and on Obama personally, when I wrote that I found it shocking that he apparently wasn’t riding herd on staff to make damn sure the thing worked. I said on television, to some host’s surprise, that yes, I did hold him accountable for the mistakes.

So I get why that’s a story. But the sabotage is a story, too. A huge one. It’s almost without precedent in American history, and the precedent it does have includes some of the ugliest chapters in this nation’s history. It gets coverage, yes. But not nearly the coverage it deserves. As is so often the case—as with Benghazi, as with Fast and Furious, as with the IRS—the bigger scandal is on the Republican side.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)

If you live in New Jersey please make a point of voting tomorrow and casting your vote for Barbara Buono. Chris Christie winning by 20 points is not good for America, particularly American women. Yuck.

Sadly but hilariously, I read this as "Chris Christie winning by 20 pounds."

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

the bigger scandal is on the Republican side.

That's a stretch.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 November 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)

it's not a stretch to call it sedition. these are the same fools who fly the rebel flag at the white house gates

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)

My epithet of choice is 'cold civil war'. They've been at it since January 2009.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

If, as I do, you consider the refusal of more than a dozen Republican governors and legislatures to expand Medicaid, thereby leaving millions of low-income Americans not just uninsured but also ineligible for the health care tax credits that will be available to Americans making more money than them, to be scandalous, then it's not so much a stretch as all that.

Aimless, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

it's okay if little randy plagiarizes wikipedia. also, it's good for poor children to go hungry if mom and dad can't find work. builds character

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

in fairness the idea of rachel maddow kicking the shit out of rand paul is pretty awesome

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

so not gonna happen

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)

If, as I do, you consider the refusal of more than a dozen Republican governors and legislatures to expand Medicaid, thereby leaving millions of low-income Americans not just uninsured but also ineligible for the health care tax credits that will be available to Americans making more money than them, to be scandalous, then it's not so much a stretch as all that.

I agree but that wasn't the point of that article. That's another argument entirely.

xp

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)

i know embarrassingly little about FAST AND FURIOUS, but I would say that the the real IRS scandal is 501(c)(4) abuse. and yeah, the GOP/ Right has been worse imo.

|citation needed| (will), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)

GOP so much worse / wrong about everything lately they're like professional wrestling "villains"

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)

republicans are bad people but opposing ENDA is one of the most blatantly evil positions i can think of, so kudos republicans who oppose ENDA

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 00:44 (twelve years ago)

"Adherence to a new approval process implemented by Sen. Paul will ensure proper citation and accountability in all collaborative works going forward," he said.

Paul in recent days has been shown to have borrowed phrasing from Wikipedia, the conservative Heritage Foundation, the libertarian Cato Institute and other sources in his speeches and his recently released book. In the latter case, Paul's book cribbed more than 1,000 words of a Heritage study.

Now, I feel better.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:49 (twelve years ago)

re: heritage & cato, is it really 'plagiarism' if the source ain't mad?

goole, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

i mean, i thought the whole point of rand paul was to be a direct pipeline of right-libertarianism into the senate.

goole, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)

drgaf about this whole thing tbh, though if dude is embarrassed i'm glad

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)

I don't either. So he's plagiarizing shitty received ideas?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-1105-tsa-guns-20131105,0,3754764.story#axzz2jndfErxQ

this was bound to end well one way or another

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

the subheading kinda says it all:

Airport security experts note the cost and risk of arming TSA officers. The Airport Police chief says more officers in the terminal wouldn't have necessarily saved lives.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)

funny i think we just found the one american population the right absolutely doesn't want to see armed.

goole, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)

haha teabaggers complaining about the jack booted tsa thugs and their 'obamaguns'

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/05/the_seduction_of_george_w_bush_by_vladimir_putin (you can read it w/out sub'ing by googling headline 'the seduction of george w bush')

So when he sat down with Putin in a 16th-century castle in Slovenia in June of that year, he was predisposed to find a partner in the former KGB man even before his counterpart told him about saving his Orthodox cross from a dacha fire, a story appealing to Bush's faith. Bush's later public comment noting that he had gotten a "sense of his soul" disturbed many inside his own team. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice stiffened even as he said it, worried that the answer might be too effusive -- but she said nothing. Back in Washington, Vice President Dick Cheney and his staff were even more bothered. "A lot of us were kind of rolling our eyes about that," Eric Edelman, then the vice president's deputy national security adviser, recalled later. Every time Cheney saw Putin, he privately told people, "I think KGB, KGB, KGB."

Mordy , Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:05 (twelve years ago)

I wonder what Biden thinks every time he sees Putin.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:25 (twelve years ago)

"amtrak, amtrak, amtrak"

balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)

"Wow, when did he win a Super Bowl?"

pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)

Meanwhile, it's a rather tight race for the VA governor job.

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:05 (twelve years ago)

don't give a shit about either piece of shit

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:12 (twelve years ago)

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/05/2893001/enda-work/

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) are trying to attach a national so-called “right-to-work” law to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), according to Roll Call. The two filed an amendment connecting ENDA to the anti-union measure hours before the discrimination ban passed a key hurdle on its way to its first floor vote in the Senate in six years. The proposal would effectively require workers to trade protections from discrimination on the basis of sexuality and gender identity for their rights to strong union protections from other employer abuses.

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:12 (twelve years ago)

don't give a shit about either piece of shit

Such venom! Such accuracy!

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:13 (twelve years ago)

LOL @ FOX News completely ignoring the governor races to allow Brit Hume space to dismiss the ACA.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)

if you feel like staying up all night, keep an eye on the nuttiest election going: minneapolis mayor! 35 names on the ballot! ranked choice voting! less than 40% turnout!

http://live.startribune.com/Event/Election_Day_2013

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:52 (twelve years ago)

Libertarian vote is saving Virginia from Cucinelli.

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:53 (twelve years ago)

(st. paul's election is dull in comparison, there was a KURT "DIRTY KURTY" DORNFELD" on the ballot)

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:55 (twelve years ago)

are you up there in the Twin Cities goole?

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 02:59 (twelve years ago)

yup! why, you a friends of kurt's?

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)

lol no! lived there in the 80s and 90s tho

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:01 (twelve years ago)

love that town, sorry to derail the amazing thread and news the McAullife won

Deuteronomy 23:1 (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:01 (twelve years ago)

yeah, it is pretty nice.

feeling this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYWy543CMAInIcD.jpg

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

"Get Ken's hands out of my womb!"

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:07 (twelve years ago)

i like to think in that shot instead of his prepared remarks someone handed him a printout from nifty.org

goole, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)


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