American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

I don't really have anything against him. he can be funny in a smug way. I like him in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

he's a great talk show guest. Host is another ball of wax sadly.

He was very funny as the host of the UK Big Brother companion show Big Brother's Big Mouth, which included a little Paul Scholes puppet.

I've really been impressed by how quickly and cogently he can juggle quips, comebacks and really perceptive ideas.

R: Facetiousness has as much value as seriousness. I think you’re mistaking seriousness for solemnity.

Interviewer: We’re not gonna solve world problems with facetiousness.

R: We’re not gonna solve them with the current system, either. At least facetiousness is funny.

http://media.npr.org/assets/bakertaylor/covers/t/tip-and-the-gipper/9781451695991_custom-e17230e8dd366e6c72dd69ec6358fd3c528af08e-s6-c30.jpg

i have very exciting news to share w/ american politics thread. next sunday i will be attending an event where board favorite politician + personal hero former senator joe lieberman will be the keynote speaker. do not fear - i will liveblog everything.

If the word "Joementum" is spoken aloud into a microphone by anyone at that event, my excitement will be boundless.

Sore Loserman

Is he a Joetivational Speaker now?

more like jewvational - http://crownheights.info/kinus-hashluchim/403669/kinus-banquet-keynote-guest-speakers-announced/

I can easily get to Crown Hts to make a citizen's arrest, or at least anitabryant him in the face with some kreplach.

(and surprisingly for a Roundhead)

What?!

I approve of "anitabryant" as a verb

yeah michael that seemed a little off to me too haha

usually such a chill crew, the new model army

Meanwhile Cheney actually invited to Sunday talk shows without Interpol arresting him.

this is old news, but o_O

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/20/ted-cruz-receives-8-minute-standing-ovation-return-tx-after-shutdown-battle

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/22/sen-ted-cruz-greeted-in-arlington-texas-with-14-minute-standing-ovation/

christ

arlington is so embarassing

8 minutes, let alone 14 minutes, is an incredibly long time for a standing ovation

if there is video out there someone should juxtapose cruz's ovation face with 9000 corpses to represent the estimated number of Texans who will die each year because of TX's refusal to expand medicaid

god

The Justice Department for the first time has notified a criminal defendant that evidence being used against him came from a warrantless wiretap, a move that is expected to set up a Supreme Court test of whether such eavesdropping is constitutional.

Prosecutors filed such a notice late Friday in the case of Jamshid Muhtorov, who was charged in Colorado in January 2012 with providing material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a designated terrorist organization based in Uzbekistan.

Mr. Muhtorov is accused of planning to travel abroad to join the militants and has pleaded not guilty. A criminal complaint against him showed that much of the government’s case was based on intercepted e-mails and phone calls.

haven't read anything about that but could be great news for our side

the more this stuff gets out into open court the better

yup

I mean the outcome may not be to my liking but it's definitely preferable to all this shit being done in secret without any actual legal trail.

The fly in the ointment is that so many sitting federal judges were appointed due to their affiliation with Federalist Society positions.

You're dead, you piece of shit coward. Get yourself buried.

"whichever way the wind blows, let it not be said that I do not also blow"

Immigration overhaul is not popular

with republicans

Right, so expecting them to suddenly change simply because Rubio wants to do it is stupid.

http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/immigration-tip-sheet-on-u-s-public-opinion/

some self-awareness about their party's prospects provided brief glimmer of hope but yeah these guys are too stupid to figure out anything but the most short-term self-preservation strategies

Americans in not understanding how borders work shockah

btw that bullshit, fake hope that has been proffered for 25 years ("big tent" et al) is the prime reason the GOP has disintegrated.

why, because it's so transparently false?

obviously

How's that big tent raises all boats don't stop thinking bout tomorrow compassionate hopey changey thing working

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000656072367/0993ce6a13f0abdbefd53b045c1013dc.jpeg

study group for major ivy students only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IM7xstI70

Rome, Georgia Republicans:

People in those districts are poorer and more likely to be unemployed than in the nation at large. They have focused their anger about their economic circumstances on Obama, and they want someone, anyone, to make him improve things for them. This is why Hackett praises his congressman, Tom Graves, for voting against the plan to end the budget impasse with Obama that produced the shutdown. “I think he’s great,” he said of Graves. “Somebody’s got to stand up to him.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/at-the-source-of-the-shutdown-the-economy-falters--and-anger-at-obama-runs-high/2013/10/28/67d51c90-3fe2-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html?hpid=z4

so, NSA spying on allied leaders...how big of a problem is this? This is bad....but it looks like it started in 2006. But this means people either kept Obama in the dark (likely) or he let it go on (less likely)...either one of these things is pretty bad.

I mean Obama's not knowing shit is making him more like Reagan in ways I don't think he wants.

Obama's been pretty lenient on these matters... wouldn't be surprised if he knew and let it continue, frankly

lol yeah this administration loves "intelligence" why would you assume Obama didn't know about it

fwiw they're claiming he didn't:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/26/us-may-have-buggedangelamerkelsphonesince2002report.html

It wouldn't surprise me at all. The intersection of a perpetual and bloated national security apparatus with 133t h4xx0rz probably results in a lot of stuff the president doesn't know about.

Whither Tombot? He could clue us in here.

Spying on Allied leaders since 2002. Obama is happy with Keith Alexander of the NSA (who said he's gonna retire next year) despite his confessing that their massive data-scooping has not stopped anything. Plus that Star Trek command Center he had still makes me smh at his spending of taxpayers dollars and his professionalism

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-army-star-trek-command-center-2013-9

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/02/nsa_director_admits_to_misleading

The other intelligence head, James Clapper, used to be a Bush era general, who said how certain he was that Saddam had nuclear weapons that he smuggled out of the country. Now under Obama he lied to Congress about data collection.