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I still remember where I was when that happened.

Alba, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:18 (twelve years ago)

see even os x added avatars before ilx

Euler, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:19 (twelve years ago)

i've seen things you people wouldn't believe. arbitrarily extensible file system metadata added to hierarchical file systems. i watched avatars glitter in sub-retina resolution on thunderbolt displays. all those... moments... will be lost in time... like tears in the rain. time... to die.

乒乓, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

lol this thread got super interesting in the wink of an eye

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:30 (twelve years ago)

loud embarrassing snort-laugh accomplished, thanks dayo

eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)

I still prefer it to most other web email interfaces, though. God, there are some awful ones.

― mh, Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:38 PM (4 hours ago)

my favorite was the iteration of ms exchange with a webmail interface that wouldn't work properly in internet explorer

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 25 October 2013 00:41 (twelve years ago)

what's the opposite of eating yr own dog food

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 25 October 2013 00:42 (twelve years ago)

That is so Microsoft

Their current Team Foundation Server web dashboard definitely works better in other browsers than IE

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 01:34 (twelve years ago)

I have a weird bug w/tweetbot where it's hidden off the screen somewhere ungrabbable & it persists even when closed and reopened

how do I fix it

cozen, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:07 (twelve years ago)

I get that too.

If you hold down the option key, and go to the File menu you can choose "Quit and close all windows". Then restart and it should be fixed fit for the time being.

Alba, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:30 (twelve years ago)

Relaunch, I mean, not restart.

Alba, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:30 (twelve years ago)

perfect thanks

next problem: silverlight is acting like a total dog in mavericks. I thought netflix were supposed to be switching over to HTML5 - have they already done this and if they have is there a way to force netflix into HTML5?

cozen, Friday, 25 October 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)

how long does the mavericks upgrade take? 20m, 1h, more?

caek, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)

Once it's downloaded, about 35 minutes for me. Though the final "About a minute left" took 10.

stet, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)

yeah little less than 1h. but the DL took like 2.5 hrs.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 25 October 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)

for me it took over two hours to install after the download (which itself took about 4 hours). i've got an old ass 2008 iMac though

Nhex, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)

i think it was actually the lowest possible iMac spec for 10.9 lol

Nhex, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)

I must have read about this at the time, but it's news to me. Hasn't exactly set the world on fire I guess.

Excuse the digression, but it’s been a difficult decade for file systems:

2001. Palm, Inc. acquires Be, Inc. for $11 million.

2001. Palm, Inc. discontinues BeOS, therefore, the Be File System (BFS) development stops.

2002. Lucent Technologies discontinues Plan 9.

2006. Microsoft, for unknown reasons, shelves WinFS, the most promising practical file system since BFS.

2006. Hans Reiser, author of the promising ReiserFS, murders his wife, Nina.

2009. Apple advertises support for Sun Microsystems’ ZFS in OS X Server 10.6.

2010. Oracle acquires Sun Microsystems.

2010. Apple removes references to ZFS from the OS X Server website.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

download mavericks: 4 hrs
install mavericks: 42 mins
resolve this:

http://i.imgur.com/HSN79Tm.jpg

7 hrs
download mavericks: 4 hrs
install mavericks: 42 mins

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)

run diskwarrior, sounds like you have a bad directory.

dan selzer, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

throw hard drive out window, buy new ssd, install mavericks, restore home directory from backup imo

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)

yeah. i did do the disk repair thing, but odds on it's a dying drive. at least i know the backup is okay.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)

yes buy SSD and see the world from a rocketship

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

price prohibitive, sadly. i need at least 1/2 tb. also, the mbp is 3.5 yrs old and not really worth putting too much money into.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

yeah would be trickier on MBP but I have a 2009 MacBook and the SSD gave it a new life. But you could pull out the optical drive and put in a 128 SSD for $120 in the bay. Then upgrade your dying HD for around the same price and use that for cold storage. (Depends on your workflow, of course. Are you doing a lot of video or photo work?)

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)

oh interesting, cheers. i think the optical drive is hosed anyway. i don't do video work, just web stuff, docs and itunes/iphoto storage.

the plan is to buy a retina mbp next year when i'm a bit more flush.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

Dunno. I think a 3.5 y.o. MBP is still worth a memory upgrade and a 200-300 dollar SSD, no? Depends on your needs I guess but I could still get a few years out of such a machine

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 25 October 2013 21:09 (twelve years ago)

my 5 y.o. mbp seems fine for everything i put it through

乒乓, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)

the non-retina mbps are sort of the last apple macbooks that are actually amenable to user upgrading.

乒乓, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)

damn AA, that blows

Nhex, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:20 (twelve years ago)

cheers nhex. at least my backup is good!

Dunno. I think a 3.5 y.o. MBP is still worth a memory upgrade and a 200-300 dollar SSD, no? Depends on your needs I guess but I could still get a few years out of such a machine

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 26 October 2013 08:09 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes! i did the memory upgrade recently (to 8 gb) and it made a huge difference. my whole incentive to upgrade is for a retina screen, but yeah, this mbp could probably go for another few years.

right now i can get a 1/2 tb ssd for 4x the price of a 1 tb non-ssd. difficult to justify, especially as speed is not really an issue (although dandydonweiner's dual ssd/non-ssd solution really appeals).

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

i'm doing a dual ssd / hdd setup - 256 ssd and a 1tb hdd

乒乓, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

that's my setup on my 2009 iMac. All I have on my MacBook is a 256SSD.

If I could push all my music and photos to the cloud I'd ditch HD life forevah.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 25 October 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)

If you need 500GB get a hybrid, they are rad

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)

- written on Mid-2010 MBP with a 500GB Seagate Momentus XT

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)

oh, so done. there's a 1tb where i'm going!

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)

fabulous sshd tip, mh. it's already noticeably faster in some ways.

now i'm wishing i'd bought a new drive sooner. i've been scraping through with <10 gb free space for at least two years.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:07 (twelve years ago)

i just (well, the us taxpayer just bought me) an air with a 512gb ssd /braggin

caek, Sunday, 27 October 2013 01:15 (twelve years ago)

you're welcome

mh, Sunday, 27 October 2013 01:17 (twelve years ago)

1 maverick tip and 1 questions.

tip: w/ multiple monitors, application switcher (command tab) pops up on whichever monitor you last invoked the dock on (assuming it's hidden, not sure otherwise)

question: why on earth do I have two tiny little finder windows sitting in the middle of my desktop that I can't click on and don't do anything?

dan selzer, Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)

i.. don't have that, so i don't know?

however, my nfs mounts no longer work, and i don't even see where to configure them. :/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 October 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)

and screw however killed the ability to switch the dock back to 2D. Always the first thing I do.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)

my dock stayed 2d during the upgrade

caek, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:55 (twelve years ago)

oh, seems you need to put your dock on the side (it should be there anyway unless you are a savage)

caek, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:56 (twelve years ago)

dock on the side? that's where all my adobe tools are. I keep it on the bottom, minimized.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 October 2013 01:43 (twelve years ago)

caek otm

If your adobes are on a side put your dock on the other

mh, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:11 (twelve years ago)

widescreen = put your widgets on the side

caek, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)

you said it, man

mh, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)

I used to think that, but then moving the cursor all the way to the side was annoying me, so I went bottom but minimized. the dock doesn't show any useful information so I don't care if it's on all the time

Euler, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)

The other side? The other side is filled with adobe palettes. Here's what InDesign looks like:

https://db.tt/enqNc63U

I think I'll stick with the dock on the bottom thanks.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 October 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)


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