Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

my hunch was he was speaking of monogamy. if so, it's no skin off my nose how partners choose to handle that one, but 'open' marriages have plenty of hazards to negotiate, too.

Conventions like not being the center of one's own universe, more like.

Thought this was a great read

http://americanreviewmag.com/stories/A-gay-awakening

I noticed a pic on the sidebar that showed the American Review magazine cover photo with Batman & Robin figurines on a wedding cake. This may have struck the editors as a slyly humorous choice, but it was remarkably tone deaf, considering the insistent conflation of homosexuality and pedophilia in anti-gay propaganda. Robin's age is somewhat indeterminate, but he is never portrayed as an adult.

True, Chris O'Donnell is no adult.

You're telling me this subtext is new to you?

The jokes about Batman & Robin go back to when they were first published, so, no. What I am saying is that it is an unfortunate image to project as the essence of gay marriage, since it only reinforces a negative stereotype of older gay men preying on sub-adult boys. capiche?

Robin's age is somewhat indeterminate, but he is never portrayed as an adult.

except, apparently, by Christopher Nolan?

like not being the center of one's own universe

We die alone. That's my fortune cookie for the day.

I know plenty of single people who are very giving and altruistic, but keep putting those heteronormative pegs in their proper holes.

"brought to you by the Human Rights Campaign"

We die alone.

what a weird sentence

it's a life sentence

(shit, more royalties for the DKs)

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0bpwnzjc11qf2dg2o1_500.jpg

I mean, you and your SO could drive over a cliff together, that wouldn't be dying alone

heh, I have no memory of that line in that film. (liked it, saw it twice, way under the avg I realize)

Thelma & Louise, only once

that's one more time than I have, I was thinking more a "Stan" situation

South Park or Eminem?

lol Eminem, wasn't aware of a South Park Stan/Wendy suicide pact

Stan Marsh singing "I wanna die with you, Wendy, on the streets tonight in an everlasting kiss" would be kinda awesome.

Okay, Hawaii's senate just passed gay marriage so it's up to the house.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/229943741.html

i don't know half the hawaiian words in this but you can still kind of get the point:

http://kumuhina.tumblr.com/post/65536472499/hawaiian-values-differ-from-western-traditions

what's Hawaiian for "sodomy rocks"

If you support the Westernized Christian view of marriage, then so be it — but please don’t pretend that your choice has anything to do with Hawaiian thought or values. You have joined the ranks of the ones without a culture, without a language and without a soul, the ones our ancestors called haole.

ether

I'm accepting applications again. Hit me up.

Did mine get lost in the mail?

Some son of a bitching postal worker's living fat off the dowry right now.

well, now we all don't know which version of Gore Vidal & Howard to aim for.

Whoa, hey, go Illinois!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-gay-marriage-illinois-20131105,0,4999236,full.story

How long before Texas is the only state with a significantly large chunk of the u.s. population without marriage equality?

I dunno, how quickly will Florida move?

what do you mean by "significantly large"? Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina are in the top 10 most populated states...

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Forgot about Florida b/c Alfred and I have been planning for MN nuptials.

But...Chicago, in the springtime.

Did not realize only 7 states have more than 10m people.

No! International Falls in January!

february: colder, and the monf of wuv

Forgot about Florida b/c Alfred and I have been planning for MN nuptials.

― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.),

you and your shrieking nothingness

Well, let's just say fuck you too, sugar.

that much closer to picking a new issue to avoid the life-and-death ones!

ENDA! That will be huge.

Gay marriage in the Middle East!

But do let me know when I can start voting on whether people live or die. I've got a list.

and i never will be missed

(pssst apocalypse by climate change etc)

Start planning your Waikiki weddings.

QUESTION: Now that the state Legislature has passed the marriage equality bill, what happens next to the measure?

ANSWER: Senate Bill 1, House Draft 1 now goes to Gov. Neil Abercrombie who has already said he will sign it into law.

Q: Once it is law, when will same-sex couples be able to marry in Hawaii?

A: The bill allows for legal gay marriages as soon as Dec. 2.

Q: What will happen to Hawaii-sanctioned civil unions now that the state plans to permit same-sex marriages?

A: In short: nothing. According to the state's registrar of vital statistics, the civil union law -- and reciprocal beneficiaries -- will remain unchanged. Neither will phase out as a result of same-sex marriage being passed. The bill passed today states that couples will not need to terminate their civil unions or reciprocal beneficiary relationships before marrying because the marriage will automatically do that for them. Additionally, rights, benefits, protections and responsibilities offered to the couple through the previous legal relationship will continue uninterrupted through the marriage and be considered to have accrued since the first date of the civil union or reciprocal beneficiary relationship.

Q: Will the opposition to same-sex marriage end with the new law?

A: No. Opponents vow to challenge the law in court once Abercrombie signs it. Circuit Judge Karl Sakamoto on Thursday declined to issue a restraining order sought by opponents to halt action on the legislation, but said once the law is adopted, he will consider its constitutionality.

And we'll see where that goes but anyway. Hawaii!

Looks like Abercrombie may sign as early as tomorrow. Illinois doesn't make it official until next Wednesday.

dope moves hawaii

Abercrombie has just signed.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/today-history-in-the-making-watch-live-as-hawaii-governor-signs-same-sex-marriage-bill/politics/2013/11/13/78626#.UoPlfRDe4Zx

I'm marrying gr80.