American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

and if i didnt see the news i'd never have noticed.

HE didnt, people who indulged him and his ilk did. But keep buying that MSNBC line, they can hire more Ronan Farrows with the dough.

you ppl really are the silliest form of sports fan

you have absolutly no idea what youre talking about, but still manage to put some good effort into condisending, kudos

de nada

omg TEDS CRUZ TED CRUZ SO POWERFUL MY GOD THERE'S NOTHING THE MIGHTY PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN DO TO STOP HIM HE'S RELENTLESS!

yes because that exactly what i was saying, if you care to explain why masterminding a government shutdown doesnt represent power im all ears

"masterminding" seems a stretch to describe what Cruz actually did.

no him and mike lee really were instrumental in coming up with the whole idea

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My impression is that this terrible idea mostly originated from the House.

Or more accurately maybe originated with doofus at places Heritage Action or whatever. But giving Cruz and Lee full credit for it not really accurate. They didn't whip up the votes in the House to quash this thing.

it was executed in the house but schemed up and promoted by ted cruz mike lee and yr usual suspect wingnut fundriasing/media orgs

they did actually whip up the votes which is the craziest thing, i cant recall senators so blatantly fucking around in the house

I don't think it took much. Hadn't 80+ house persons already signed a petition saying there were going to defund Obamacare whatever the costs?

sure you have to have willing allies but the extent to which cruz strategized the whole thing is hard to overstate, hes a player

um who started the petition and pushed it on talk radio, fox news, red state, etc all summer?

'i don't think norquist has much influence on tax debate'

what are you talking about now

norquist iirc was not super enthusiastic re the shutdown

and i'm not sure why anyone should be surprised a paultard like morbs is parroting limbaugh 'durr anyone even notice govt shutdown?' talking points. why should he care if the nih is shutdown?

norquist : tax pledge :: cruz : defund or shutdown pledge

but still manage to put some good effort into condisending, kudos

It's spelled "condescending". C-O-N-D-E-S-C-E-N-D-I-N-G. It was a good try, maybe you'll spell better next time.

what a powerless clown - http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/sen-ted-cruz-blocks-confirmation-of-tom-wheeler-nominee-for-fcc-chairman/2013/10/17/46dfa67e-3770-11e3-8a0e-4e2cf80831fc_story.html

Mr. Edelstein and Mr. Handler added that the shutdown had delayed the data necessary to evaluate the shutdown: “The exact impact on the rest of the economy will be hard to measure until delayed economic data are released.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/us/shutdown-to-cost-us-billions-analysts-say-while-eroding-confidence.html

It's spelled "condescending". C-O-N-D-E-S-C-E-N-D-I-N-G. It was a good try, maybe you'll spell better next time.

― pplains, Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:(

I was making a joke. "Condescending" means "to have or show a feeling of patronizing superiority." Sorry it went over your head. No hard feelings.

lol

you ppl really are the silliest form of sports fan

Gee, I would have thought that those were diehard Mets fans...

Anyway, the difference here is that the 'players' make laws that affect us much more lastingly than the outcome of any sports game. I'd also note that ilxors who contribute to the political threads rarely show any affection for the objects of their attention, the only recent exception being Sen. Warren, who's garnered some fanboy raves from a very limited number of ilxors. A fascinated horror is more the style here.

well I'm in love with K-Lo. More for me then.

*set up*

This is a neat interview, and gets at what David Frum(I think) called "The Fox News Geezer".

Tho they deliberately use the provocative term "brainwash" and mention the "voting against their own interests" which is buying the incorrect Thomas Frank view of how our brains actually work. It does go into the tribalism of it all, without calling it that.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/11/fox_news_and_talk_radio_brainwashed_my_dad_partner/

...When my dad changed, he became obsessive. He got angrier. After he retired, he would sit in the kitchen and eat his lunch and listen to Rush Limbaugh for three full hours a day. God forbid you interrupt Rush. He tried to inject his political views into any conversation he had, with anybody. Around Christmas-time (not just on Christmas Day) he would be sure to shout “Merry Christmas” to anyone and everyone, because he believed that liberals were engaging in a war on Christmas.

He believed it when Rush Limbaugh told him that climate change is a hoax. He called Al Gore an “asshole” even after watching the entire An Inconvenient Truth—by then he could not be moved. He also would compliment smokers on smoking. When we would go to a restaurant and people sat outside to smoke, he would take a deep breath and exclaim how good it smelled.

This was because Rush Limbaugh told him that the scientists were lying about the findings about smoking—oh, and those greedy scientists just wanted funding money and that’s why they were perpetrating this myth about climate change being caused by humans....

Just chatted to someone who thought it was the "death ceiling" :-/

we have to raise the death ceiling on the death tax for the death panels.

the death ceiling by jose saramago

why anyone should be surprised a paultard like morbs

meet me anytime, chickenshit pussy.

Can I steal that for a song lyric

Right about now, the funk soul brother
Meet me anywhere, chickenshit pussy

an autographed copy of 'the audacity of hope' says morbius for the KO

ben carson winning nh young republicans straw poll handily after finishing close behind cruz in values voters straw poll a few weeks back - he's not actually going to run right?

dude morbs just challenged you to a duel what u gonna do

defund the nih, wait it out

o wait we're not supposed to go 'there'

Hahaha, i just saw this. 4 pm tomorrow Marietta town square. I'll make sure to wear my brand new bandwagon jumping Tony Gonzalez jersey (which i only got because they say he's good, which is what us bandwagoners do). I'll take it off before i kick your ass cuz i dont want to get your fucking pussy juice all over it. You have no clue what youre dealing with. I'll be sure to bring my friends, this could be good for a laugh, and i bet all of them have the 5 minutes to spare that it will take me to fucking crush you.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, January 25, 2013 4:32 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*locks up shopfront*

reminder than anything "-tard" is fucked up and bullshit for grownups no matter how they feel about the people they're arguing w/

idgi ron paul leotard?

I stand corrected

u shd see morbs in that thing

randersonian translocation at paulosome 13

galt gulch. sun setting. cruz's corpse smoking. a harmonica wailing forlorn in the distance