"Hipster" as pejorative.

equality ain't just a river in egypt

Inane doesn't mean your swimming near first world war battlefields.

hipsters are just young republicans?

http://www.ryot.org/5-ways-republicans-different-hipsters/419053

― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, October 14, 2013 1:55 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did anyone not know this

i didn't. i don't really know many young republicans

lol ok my bad i don't know why i have to phrase everything i post like an asshole lately. but yeah, hipsters are a maybe not 'republicans' but certainly exhibit a weird type of conservative thinking that i'm sure will lead to some odd political positioning in some of these young ppl's future

yes this clear-cut, easily definable group of people that has come to be known as "hipsters" clearly "exhibit" an identifiable "type" of "thinking" as a group. Thank you for your insightful post.

maybe the whole crew doesn't but the trust-fundamentalist subset clearly exhibit a type of "reflexive dismissive" "sarcasm"

Really stupid article. Hurting otm.

most people attacking "trust fund" types couldn't provide a working definition of what a trust fund is anyway, it just means "ppl I don't like & totally consider myself different from"

― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:11 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hipsters getting touchy itt

"trust-fundamentalist" doesn't make any sense.

lol ok my bad i don't know why i have to phrase everything i post like an asshole lately. but yeah, hipsters are a maybe not 'republicans' but certainly exhibit a weird type of conservative thinking that i'm sure will lead to some odd political positioning in some of these young ppl's future

― sleepingbag, Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf are you talking about

knowing what a trust fund is counterrevolutionary

hardly a new viewpoint, the Vice axis, while it's tilted back toward the middle since the McInnes years, was hardly a stranger to conservatism

― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Monday, October 14, 2013 4:18 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(xp)

I am in awe of how well they've jettisoned that guy in the last couple years

trust-fundamentalism makes sense if you've met hipsters from wealthy backgrounds who are culturally progressive but having never really worked real jobs have some quaint notions of what life is like for people who don't come from wealthy backgrounds. think of a poet whose heart bleeds for poor people in africa but gets pissed at how rude the waitstaff is at the campus coffee shop

indeed, think of that poet

he's just a Skynyrd fan

southern poet man don't need rude waitstaff or poor africans around anyhow

Ok I can't think of it, I give up. Is it James Dickey?

dickey's dad had lawyer money when james was growing up but not fuck you money

I had a bf with a trust fund once! His trust fund consisted of $25,000 to pay for college tuition once he turned 21 (which paid for one year of tuition at the time), and another $25,000 once he turned 25. This trust fund obviously meant that he did not have to work an honest day in his life.

that's not the kind of trust fund that minimally furnished social media tech start-ups / recording studios are made of, for sure, but it sure beats nothing

"Trust fund" is just a legal designation -- it doesn't really speak to the amount of money involved. It's just used as shorthand here, obviously.

And being "retro-obsessed" isn't true of all hipsters. The concept of "slumming" is -- that part of the comparison is one I'd agree with.

I had a bf with a trust fund once! His trust fund consisted of $25,000 to pay for college tuition once he turned 21 (which paid for one year of tuition at the time), and another $25,000 once he turned 25. This trust fund obviously meant that he did not have to work an honest day in his life.

― clueless mom complaining about miley Cyrus (sarahell), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:37 (56 minutes ago)

http://funandgooddotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/article-2262100-16efd587000005dc-781_634x558.jpg?w=750 ?

different guy!

this one was a relatively distant relative of a founder of Polaroid

just imagine being someone who was more moved by the plight of children with kwashiokor than service sector employees in the wealthiest country in the world

$50k not bad! I feel like I should have gone to a school where it'd take $25k per year. I might write in complete sentences on ilx.

he writes steampunk erotica iirc

better than arcade fire slashfic

neither activity is a hipster thing to do

darnit

neither is publishing a book of vaguely-incisive statements underneath pictures of dogs, but it is closer

have never knowingly known someone with a trust fund, is that a thing people know about

trustfundamentalism is like opus dei. they don't talk about their membership to outsiders.

not true -- they talk about it to their lawyers and accoutants

A facebook thread I got sucked into recently (excerpted)

[blah blah old leftist fb comments complaining about "hipsters" in "brooklyn"]
Hurting: I honestly don't understand who people are talking about when they say "hipsters" anymore.
JF: I was thinking the same thing. At least they should care about something that matters.
Hurting: No what I'm saying is that I just don't understand what supposedly defined group of people the word "hipsters" is used to refer to anymore. I just don't understand what it means at this point, it seems like a dead signifier.
JF: People who wear trucker hats ironically.
Hurting: Ashton Kutcher?
JF: Ha. Maybe. He's a hottie.
JF: I read an article where one signifier of hipster coolness was the I Love Bacon trucker hat. Isn't that sweet?

Am I talking to a bot?

"Their sole ambition consists of finding their way in the accepted canon, of saying the right thing. The outsider status of the initiates is an illusion and mere waiting-time. It would be giving them too much credit to call them renegades; they wear overlarge horn-rimmed glasses on their mediocre faces, solely to better pass themselves off as “brilliant” to themselves and to others in the general competition. They are already exactly like them. The subjective precondition of opposition, the non-normalized judgment, goes extinct, while its trappings continue to be carried out as a group ritual."

(or: "fuckin hipsters" - Theodor Adorno, 1951.)

that just sounds like a definition of "poseurs" to me, the "hangers on" in any arty or intellectual "scene" throughout history

Hurting you shouldn't clown Johnny Fever like that

who would adorno be on ILX?

hstencil? adam in nyc?

are those dated references? i don't know who's around here any more.

I remember 'trucker hats ironically' from way, way back in my youth, a different era

And while that Adorno quote is wonderful I think it's way too easy to place people in the category he outlines there on the basis of their appearance or selected quotes, without really knowing anything about them

Which is an obvious point probably made better many times upthread, but that's why I keep away from 'hipster' as a pejorative anyhow.

have not seen a trucker hat on anyone ironically or unironically since 1992

poor ironic trucker hats have been taking a beating for a good fifteen years now.

(yeah adorno's a wee bit mean, though he's at least equally mean about everything and everyone. that bit, on "intellectuals", is section 132 here - http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1951/mm/ch03.htm. good fun. 'mediocre faces' is especially harsh - it's not bad enough that you're living the bad life, you're also ugly.)