ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

If that's the case, Last House on the Left and I Spit On Your Grave aren't horror, either.

They're not horror, just horrible or horrific, a lineage that extends from those start points through the torture porn boom. Just because it makes you close your eyes or turn away or turn it off does not make it scary.

when I was 9 I was taken to a drive-in triple feature of the amityville horror/dawn of the dead/last house on the left. the ghosts and zombies didn't scare me but last house sure as hell did.

also where is the horrible/horrific section located and do we need a thread for it

Where do they file "Irreversible?" Next to "Hostel?"

arty eurotrash prolly

Sorry, guys.

I don't really have a dog in the fight about whether revenge movies are horror. I've never even seen I Spit on Your Grave and don't particularly want to (although I have seen and actually own Last House on the Left - I won it in a trivia contest at the first Music Box 24-hour horror movie marathon event). I mostly bring them up because they're generally considered horror cannon.

Plus if they aren't horror, then American Mary isn't horror, and that puts me behind on my 31 horror films in 31 days endeavor.

i am strongly opposed to the idea that horror movies have to scare people to be horror movies, esp as a strident proponent of the dread/creepy based horror film. im down with a well-executed jump scare every so often, but its hardly the be all end all of horror.

Has nobody watched The Conjuring yet?

we already talked about the conjuring! i didn't like it.

i assumed NA put "not really a horror movie" in quotes to avoid people taking the line too literally, more referring to the idea that film circumvents expectations to the degree that those expecting a simple masked home invasion thriller might be disappointed.

no i get that, i was just having a more general reaction to "i didnt jump out of my seat once" as a measure peeps use for horror success.

the dread-fear is so much worse/scarier than the jump-fear
i have cried through movies because of the former, while the latter just kinda makes me vocalize at a loud volume (but not actually feel fear)

even though i knew it had great raves from film festivals, i was totally suckered by the vague mediocrity of the first half of you're next, so the change in perspective was really amusing and impressive. though i totally get why it flopped with audiences following an ad campaign that was really "it's like the Strangers SQUARED!"

LL OTM about dread fear. I like jump scares, too, but honestly most of why they get to me is that I know they are coming and that gives me the dread fear.

As noted above, I really liked The Conjuring. I think it's on Amazon streaming and if it's Prime and not cash, I think I will watch it again to see how it holds up for me the second time.

I have little interest about arguing genre, I was just trying to figure out why someone who was expecting a "horror movie" might find "You're Next" boring/lame. But maybe some people just don't like it! I didn't think it was amazing but I did enjoy it.

Oh no. You brought up genre and we are going to argue genre.

I felt like You're Next didn't know how to interwine its comedy and its more horrific moments. plus it lost a lot of steam when the main *plot twist* happened, as it was a bit of a lame reveal.

I didn't hate it, but I've utterly forgotten it already.

If you're referring to the plot twist I'm thinking of, wasn't it in the last 10 minutes of the movie?

WARNING SPOILERS COMING

that was the final tenth of the plot twist that had been unraveling since about the midway part of the film, when it was obvious that

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the one son was in on the killings, which was too telegraphed and not too interesting. When I found out the other was involved it was sorta like "oh hey, why not". felt like the film would have been better if we never knew who the invaders were (or why they were picking off family members right and left). I appreciate a film that has the cojones to kill off an entire family of that size, but it didn't move me.

the film would have been better if we never knew who the invaders were (or why they were picking off family members right and left).
better? dunno. scarier, definitely. i liked it pretty well the way it was because i am legit afraid of masked intruders who want to kill me and require no extra scaring in that regard.

It did do a good job of creating an ugly atmosphere for about half of the movie, I'll give it that. but then I got bored midway through.

ha i like how this is a movie where some people will be bored for the first half, others bored for the second

I liked you're next well enough anyway but couldn't agree more w/neanderthal about how the reveal cheapened things

Going to watch the maniac remake tonight or American Mary unless someone talks me out of it

Also have some soviet movie called cargo 200 which is supposed to be p fucked up as an option

I had read some interviews with Simon Barrett about how he was going hard for a black comedy/horror kind of thing which got me really interested from the start, so I think my expectations were a little high going in? idk. The 'funny' beats weren't pulled off that well, and they got kinda lost in the more stylish look of the whole movie somehow. Maybe. I'm still rattling it round in my head.

And yeah, the movie pretty much rolled to a stop after the reveal, you were just waiting around to see how they wrapped it all up.

I like those animal masks though.

yeah i bet my experience would have been totally different if i'd gone into it knowing there'd be dark comedy, instead of that being a pleasant surprise after a lot of sub-strangers stuff

yeah, felt the same way. was expecting something grisly and bleak and was actually pretty OK with the comedic bits! but man, that ~twist~ urrrgh. could you still make it funny without doing any kind of reveal and just keep having animal mask guys try to off family members and write "you're next" on a couple more walls? sure, I think so. it'd be scarier for sure too.

yeah the twist undercut it's effectiveness for sure

Ok just started maniac and within the first 5 it sure seems that if nothing else this is worthy for the horror movie soundtracks thread

I have mixed feelings abt this movie for sure, and at least on first reaction mostly bad. But srsly, holy shit, the soundtrack.

pretty boring remake

we already talked about the conjuring! i didn't like it.

I should maybe load all messages and check properly next time.

Who did the score for Maniac that you guys are flippin on?

On a related note, I really did enjoy the Carpenter-esque cues in You're Next.

Cripes, I so quickly forgot about The Conjuring that the only movie that kept coming to mind was "The Missing" with Cate Blanchett and "The Forgotten" with Julianne Moore, both of which I had also forgotten about.

The Conjuring wasn't bad, but I felt like it was being hella overrated by critics that were jaded on horror after having to suffer for years of torture porn in the mid-00s. For one, I felt like I had just seen many similar elements in the previous year's Sinister, and they weren't exactly original then. I liked that it had the feel of a 70s horror flick, and the characters were likable and fairly well developed, but I dunno, I'm kind of growing tired of the "some ancient demon is haunting this house, now watch as a whole bunch of random crazy shit happens to a new family that just moved here" cliché.

it did make me think of the MEgadeth song though so props for that

It didn't help that he preceded it with Insidious, which was more or less the same with one of the same stars, and then followed it with Insidious 2. Maybe no shock that the guy behind the Saw movies is all about doing the same thing over and over again.

I liked Insidious, but never wound up finishing it (used to fall asleep if I watched any movie after 10). I thought the setup was neat. but yeah - he's run out of demonic ideas at this point.

got Lake Mungo waiting for me when i get in. hoping for some of that uncanny atmosphere that the Aussies seem to do so well.

Lake Mungo was strangely moving.

You guys are going to make fun of me but we watched "House at the End of the Street" last night. Pretty solid acting from Jennifer Lawrence and the main creepy dude but otherwise not notable except for *SPOILER SPOILER* a lame attempt at a PG-13 version of the Sleepaway Camp twist at the very end.

Lol just read the Wikipedia plot cuz I didn't get that far when I tried to watch it. Gotta admit I didn't see that coming

I'm glad they had it bc without it there were some pretty massive plot holes.

Who did the score for Maniac that you guys are flippin on?

― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Friday, October 18, 2013 12:36 PM (4 hours ago)

totally unhelpfully the only credit is to "Rob". Some rumors that it's one of the guys from Air, which seems odd and unsubstantiated.

JUG FACE

This is a 2013 release but available streaming through Amazon prime. Costars Johnny from Deadwood. I liked the main character (and the actress who played her). I like movies with backwoods hillbilly religious zealotry. Everybody was a little too reasonable, though, and I didn't like the ending. There's also one element of the movie that is suuuuuuuper cheesy that ruins it a little. I would say that it is overall okay. I wouldn't avoid it, but probably wouldn't get too excited about it, either.

They really missed the chance to have a horror movie called "Jughead." :(