Dear Morrissey . . .

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I'm browsing it just now. It's a decent read i think. He doesn't seem to prioritise much - every incident is dealt with in around two pages - so the effect is like having his life's contents all set up in a line, and then viewing them from a moving train.

He also appears to have dampened his very worst and most cruellest affectations, while leaving the quintessential Morrissey character traits (including middling affectations and fairly cruel character judgements). It's actually not unlike reading a particularly long classic-era l0u15 j4g9er post, and that's a compliment of sorts btw.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

okay i'm sold now

gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

That's one for the back of the second printing, reviews..

Mark G, Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)

the bit where he discusses his relationship with Jake Walters is pretty cute, which is not an adjective I foresaw myself using about this book.

gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49lPGmnYDw4

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)

sort of disappointed that this appears to contain forthright discussions of his romantic/sex life...? was hoping for more clever elisions and evasions tbh

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:27 (twelve years ago)

It's not really any more forthright than any of his lyrics.

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:46 (twelve years ago)

Did want to shout 'stop remembering tv' when he was just listing things he watched in the 60s.

Four and a half bloody pages worth. Morrissey veering dangerously close to Stuart MacConie territory.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 18 October 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)

Then again, that's only 4.5 pages. Stuart Mac writes whole books.

Mark G, Friday, 18 October 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)

uh, just suffered through another three pages worth of childhood telly.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)

i keep hearing this thread title in my head sung to the tune of that gin blossoms song. driving me a little crazy...

scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)

and meanwhile i would LOVE to read 10 pages of MOz t.v. habits!!! maybe i'm crazy.

scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)

otm. I used to watch "Skippy The Bush Kangaroo" as well. Why then wasn't I the lead singer of The Smiths? Also, where does he stand on "Kimba The White Lion"?

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

He doesn't stand on lions.

Mark G, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)

I like it a lot more when he starts remembering music instead. And remembering books. I am completely into his tributes to Auden, Stevie Smith and Robert Herrick.

woof, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

"And then my world would change forever..."

http://d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net/books/1275941673l/8242160.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)

These are my favourite bits of autobiographies. Adolescence saved by books + music. I love his enthusiasm!

Only 15% in & I think the editor's starting to rush things a bit, 'Hillaire Belloc' repeatedly.

woof, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)

sort of disappointed that this appears to contain forthright discussions of his romantic/sex life...? was hoping for more clever elisions and evasions tbh

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/10/19/morrissey-not-homosexual-is-humasexual-instead/

fresh (crüt), Sunday, 20 October 2013 07:25 (twelve years ago)

at least sense of huma is intact

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Sunday, 20 October 2013 08:18 (twelve years ago)

no huma, bro

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 20 October 2013 09:32 (twelve years ago)

Huma huma yay
Huma huma huma yay

kinder, Sunday, 20 October 2013 09:38 (twelve years ago)

http://oi43.tinypic.com/2vcgo3k.jpg

fresh (crüt), Sunday, 20 October 2013 09:41 (twelve years ago)

http://confessionsofacurlymind.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/yung-humma.jpg

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)

lol

fresh (crüt), Sunday, 20 October 2013 10:04 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUZ7DdnL20

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Sunday, 20 October 2013 10:32 (twelve years ago)

Eh I've seen American beauty, not sure I need another story where the racist dude turns out to be gay

Tesco and Horse Dobbins 2013 (wins), Monday, 21 October 2013 12:29 (twelve years ago)

irl tee hee

ͼѾͽ (sic), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:44 (twelve years ago)

Chris Heath's is the best review of this I've seen: http://www.gq.com/entertainment/books/201310/gq-reviews-morrissey-autobiography

Sums up exactly how I felt. It's a pretty great book up until The Smiths form, and then it just becomes weird and sad.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 10:10 (twelve years ago)

that seems about right – I still had legs for the section on The Smiths (maybe I'd have been disappointed if they mattered more to me – I like them, but I'm not one of the faithful), tho' it was a step down from the love art/hate school sections, but then… my god the trial… it goes on forever. And you think you're out, but the close reading of the judgement begins. And then the – what 100, 150-page? – repetitive tour diary is just rotten. Some nice little pen-portraits here and there, but really "The next night I played to a crowd of 5,249 adoring fans in Oslo. My audience is getting younger as I, unfairly, am getting older. I no longer care about the British press, especially not the NME, but they refuse to cover this hysteria." over and over with slight variations.

The first third or half is really really good, far better than I expected or feared after opening pages – but it goes badly wrong.

woof, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 11:11 (twelve years ago)

otoh, the tour diary is a sort of tribute to his fans, which is nice - but for a general reader, no.

woof, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 11:15 (twelve years ago)

First 150-200 pages of childhood and early youth are really great stuff.

The Smiths era is way glossed over, I was definitely interested to find how young Morrissey felt going from village misfit to indie stardom. But alas. The constant Geoff Travis bashing is hilarious, however.

The trial and legal fallout is obviously tl;dr but he does make one or two good points in the wash of whining.

Tour diary is very much for the fans. Not sure if one can really equate a concert in El Paso to prison sex but anyways.

Best revelation? He collected the money at A Certain Ratio's first gig!

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:23 (twelve years ago)

Also: put this in context. There's less whinging in this book than in Peter Hook's "The Haçienda: How Not To Run A Club".

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:29 (twelve years ago)

quick flickthrough..

Saw a bit where Mike Joyce managed to contact M via letter, post trial, etc.

The conclusion from Moz was more or less "yes, over time I may well find forgiveness, but we will never be friends again"

So, there you go..

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:59 (twelve years ago)

The first third or half is really really good

This is what the NYT review said today... plus his fondness for Dr Smith from "Lost in Space"! Source of band name?

we will never be friends again

song title in waiting

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)

"I may well find forgiveness" been done already?

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)

looking forward to reading this when it's out in the US

the back half being sad/tragic obsession on trial seems v Wildean

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:25 (twelve years ago)

There are just so many weird, bitchy moments.

At one point he's talking about somebody denying him permission to include a song - Swan Lake by The Cats I think - on that Under The Influence compilation he had about 10 years ago. Later it turns out the guy didn't even own the rights so Moz gets to include the song anyway. It's such a weirdly banal little anecdote that you wonder why he's even mentioning it, until you get to the last sentence in the paragraph: “When he dies in 2008, I think, Well, that’s what you get for being so nasty”.

There's a lot of fat hate too. The most hilarious scene - I mean, hilarious according to Morrissey - is when some girl tries to get an autograph just as the Smiths tour bus drives off and Johnny Marr shouts back at her, "See you, fatty!"

Later on, Morrissey thinks it a great joke that no one tells the girl who appears in the You're The One For Me Fatty video what the name of the song is.

By the end, he considers himself fat too, though, and moans quite a bit about his own belly.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)

instant karma went and got him

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

Not sure if one can really equate a concert in El Paso to prison sex but anyways.

why don't we ask Texans

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)

ah I see, the first third is great cuz... it's like a music critic's memoir? My God, what could be worse?

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)

oh hush mr film man

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

My God, what could be worse?

A Dennis Perrin autobiog.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)

That's his next book! Largely about the janitorial life.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

American release date: December 3

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 03:58 (twelve years ago)

I'm still slogging through this. It's really hard to take more than 10-12 pages at a time.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 10:32 (twelve years ago)

That anecdote about Under the Influence* seems to be the pattern - there is a succession of famous people he meets, or has brief dealings with and who all slight, snub or ignore him. Or just stop replying to his postcards. He sees Alain Toussaint in a studio and says hello, but gets no response - it goes in the ledger.

*it's the Sundown Playboys track, which was orig. licensed to Apple, and it's Neil Aspinall who sends the nasty note.

mahb, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)

yes that anecdote tells me everything i need to know which is to steer well clear of this. “When he dies in 2008, I think, Well, that’s what you get for being so nasty” is not funny or clever, it's just a horribly depressing way to live your life.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:23 (twelve years ago)

I notice you end almost every anecdote with the phrase ‘needless to say, I had the last laugh’.

sleepingsignal, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:43 (twelve years ago)

I couldn't get through this book and dropped it off at the charity shop. Guy behind the counter had read it as well and we agreed that two thirds of the book is basically Morrissey whinging. He asked me if I thought the book should be a Penguin Classic and I replied that honestly I thought it was just a marketing tactic.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 1 November 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

you don't say!

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 1 November 2013 11:31 (twelve years ago)


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