American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

lol "targeted strikes"?

does the Speaker have his own fleet of drones now?

yeah its bad news for sure, shit should work xp

It's dumb as a line of attack, but I don't think the minimizing of the website problems is a good look for D's.

smart, targeted strikes

hahahahahhhahah! SMART! HAha ahahahahahahah!

they shouldve just hired whoever made orbitz or kayak or w/e

That was the problem with their debt ceiling ACA gambit, it just wasn't smart. But next time, it will be smart.

Just curious, have you tried the phone number? I wonder if it's staffed well enough to get people signed up without much delay or if it's a maze of menus and long wait times. many xps

"What we need to do is what we did before, but next time, we will make it smart. That way, we take them by surprise."

I called (it was telling me that my Identity was not Verified), the woman I talked to (who, no joke, said her name was Erykah Badu) started to just fill out an application for me, but I was at work and couldn't spend an hour on the phone. I would, obviously, much rather do it online, but she didn't seem like she could help me with that, told me to try again in a few hours.

I did get through right away, which surprised me.

Highly anticipated online debuts will always crash systems, and America's janky net infrastructure doesn't help. Orbitz doesn't have to deal with day one server spikes.

The thing to do is ask Erykah Badu to register for you.

I got that damn "Not verified yet" message. As in, I signed in, logged in, entered my SSN, etc. Ended up with a message saying my identity needed to be verified and to call some phone number and.... yeah.....I'll do that later...

I just decided to continue anyways and so far I've filled out most of my demographic information, got an account, etc. Once I dig out my W2s from last year then I'll log back in and see what's going on.

Orbitz doesn't have to deal with day one server spikes.

― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya we discussed that upthread, shouldve done some more gradual rollout

fwiw it does seem like it might be more broken than just some opening night jitters

Remember the last time anything with this scale went online without glitches? Oh yeah...that was the 5th of never.

yeah this literally just does not work at all might be a finer point you guys are missing

metaphors galore

Yeah, and really, when a lot of the succes of the law depends on a succesful early enrollment, then it's not just about whether it 'looks' good. These troubles might harm the financial future of the law.

no way

unless of course you want to adopt the conservative's argument that this whole thing is designed to fail and thus Democrats can say that a single-payer system is the only thing that is fair for everyone

iirc, actual enrollment isn't possible until after March 31st anyway. if the dang thang stays broken, then that would be a good and adequate reason to amend the startup date, but that's just reality getting in the way of plans. plans give way bcz reality rules the roost.

Seriously, we're two weeks into an open enrollment that lasts six months. No need to assume crash positions yet.

If you enroll by December 15th, the policy you select will kick in on January 1. Enrollment is extended an additional three months to encourage more people to opt in, though.

coverage starts on jan 1st 2014 fyi

xp

I keep citing the Medicare expansion of '06 rollout that was a disaster for months and no one remembers now.

you can enroll forever im assuming or is it just gonna be available to people for the next six months lol

yeah this literally just does not work at all might be a finer point you guys are missing

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:40 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it does work for some people, which is part of what's so confusing about the situation for me

yeah i dont think this will hurt the long term health of the program, but that doesnt mean its a fuck up

I think there will be annual or semi-annual periods each year just like medicare or the means people usually enroll in work-sponsored coverage.

there is literally no glitch in the world big enough to make this program go away

yet another reason why the Republicans are so fucking stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1TuRpsAVcg

man these guys are such shitbags

And Erickson...launches another fundraising drive, in essence.

(who, no joke, said her name was Erykah Badu)

Maybe the have celebrities manning the phone lines like they do during telethons? Keep calling and maybe you'll get George Clooney.

xpost When you;re being berated by an asshole like that, can you be held in contempt if you tell him to fuck off?

Tea party leaders accuse GOP of 'total surrender'

From Matea Gold:

The bipartisan Senate deal to end the government’s fiscal impasse was roundly condemned Wednesday by tea party leaders around the country, who accused Republican lawmakers of capitulating to President Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress. Matt Kibbe, president of the FreedomWorks conservative group, called it “a total surrender” and said the tea party’s gambit to undermine Obama’s health-care law could have worked if GOP leadership had stood firm.

“We don’t have regrets,” Kibbe added. “This was a very winnable fight, if the Republicans had been willing to fight.”

They are really, really dumb.

can't count votes

So did they sign the damn thing ?

still voting on boring procedural stuff

Boehner is letting the Senate version come to the House floor for a vote, regardless of the so-called Hastert Rule. Coulda done this a long time ago and saved us a lot of grief, JB.

he was hoping beyond hope like the rest of them that the dems would cave, tbf a lot of people thought they would

Harry Reid just wandered over to the group of senators who aren't pieces of shit (Warren, Sanders, Sherrod Brown) and got some very warm handshakes

Is anyone tweeting on the floor?

Ew,

Chris Hayes illustrated the ways in which Dems could have caved and didn't rise to the bait.

The Senate on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a deal to re-open the government and raise the federal debt limit. The measure passed 81-18, with all Democrats and 27 Republicans voting yes.

The 18 Republicans voting no were: Senators David Vitter (La.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Mike Lee (Utah), Marco Rubio (Fla.), Ron Johnson (Wis.), Pat Toomey (Pa.), John Cornyn (Texas), Richard Shelby (Ala.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), Rand Paul (Ky.), Dean Heller (Ariz.), Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Mike Crapo (Idaho), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Mike Enzi (Wyo.), Jim Risch (Idaho), Tim Scott (S.C.), and Pat Roberts (Kan.).