American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

man if rubio and ryan are the top contenders for the republican nom, two precocious lil boys trying so hard to act adult

what are the harmful effects of ACA that working class Americans need relief for?

rand paul owning them so hard every debate

what are the harmful effects of ACA that working class Americans need relief for?

― Moodles, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

website glitches

health

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website glitches

The perfect crisis for a culture that waits in line for new cell phones and pays more attention to internet speeds more than national politics.

rather be free to go bankrupt paying medical bills than be forced to endure website glitches. that is some extreme boostrapism

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Obama decides pitchers and catchers

Boehner's "targeted strikes" are coming. This is from his latest statement:

We will rely on aggressive oversight that highlights the law’s massive flaws and smart, targeted strikes that split the legislative coalition the president has relied upon to force his health care law on the American people.”

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Y'know, the glitches are spectacularly overrated as a reflection of the ACA, but they aren't just slow speeds/inconveniences. I've been trying every single day since the first to sign up for coverage and I haven't gotten it to work once. Took me a week to just get an account. When you combine that with having waited for healthcare for about a year, it's pretty stressful and disheartening.

lol "targeted strikes"?

does the Speaker have his own fleet of drones now?

yeah its bad news for sure, shit should work xp

It's dumb as a line of attack, but I don't think the minimizing of the website problems is a good look for D's.

smart, targeted strikes

hahahahahhhahah! SMART! HAha ahahahahahahah!

they shouldve just hired whoever made orbitz or kayak or w/e

That was the problem with their debt ceiling ACA gambit, it just wasn't smart. But next time, it will be smart.

Just curious, have you tried the phone number? I wonder if it's staffed well enough to get people signed up without much delay or if it's a maze of menus and long wait times. many xps

"What we need to do is what we did before, but next time, we will make it smart. That way, we take them by surprise."

I called (it was telling me that my Identity was not Verified), the woman I talked to (who, no joke, said her name was Erykah Badu) started to just fill out an application for me, but I was at work and couldn't spend an hour on the phone. I would, obviously, much rather do it online, but she didn't seem like she could help me with that, told me to try again in a few hours.

I did get through right away, which surprised me.

Highly anticipated online debuts will always crash systems, and America's janky net infrastructure doesn't help. Orbitz doesn't have to deal with day one server spikes.

The thing to do is ask Erykah Badu to register for you.

I got that damn "Not verified yet" message. As in, I signed in, logged in, entered my SSN, etc. Ended up with a message saying my identity needed to be verified and to call some phone number and.... yeah.....I'll do that later...

I just decided to continue anyways and so far I've filled out most of my demographic information, got an account, etc. Once I dig out my W2s from last year then I'll log back in and see what's going on.

Orbitz doesn't have to deal with day one server spikes.

― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya we discussed that upthread, shouldve done some more gradual rollout

fwiw it does seem like it might be more broken than just some opening night jitters

Remember the last time anything with this scale went online without glitches? Oh yeah...that was the 5th of never.

yeah this literally just does not work at all might be a finer point you guys are missing

metaphors galore

Yeah, and really, when a lot of the succes of the law depends on a succesful early enrollment, then it's not just about whether it 'looks' good. These troubles might harm the financial future of the law.

no way

unless of course you want to adopt the conservative's argument that this whole thing is designed to fail and thus Democrats can say that a single-payer system is the only thing that is fair for everyone

iirc, actual enrollment isn't possible until after March 31st anyway. if the dang thang stays broken, then that would be a good and adequate reason to amend the startup date, but that's just reality getting in the way of plans. plans give way bcz reality rules the roost.

Seriously, we're two weeks into an open enrollment that lasts six months. No need to assume crash positions yet.

If you enroll by December 15th, the policy you select will kick in on January 1. Enrollment is extended an additional three months to encourage more people to opt in, though.

coverage starts on jan 1st 2014 fyi

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I keep citing the Medicare expansion of '06 rollout that was a disaster for months and no one remembers now.

you can enroll forever im assuming or is it just gonna be available to people for the next six months lol

yeah this literally just does not work at all might be a finer point you guys are missing

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:40 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it does work for some people, which is part of what's so confusing about the situation for me

yeah i dont think this will hurt the long term health of the program, but that doesnt mean its a fuck up

I think there will be annual or semi-annual periods each year just like medicare or the means people usually enroll in work-sponsored coverage.

there is literally no glitch in the world big enough to make this program go away

yet another reason why the Republicans are so fucking stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1TuRpsAVcg

man these guys are such shitbags

And Erickson...launches another fundraising drive, in essence.