American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

The current salary (2013) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.

House Leadership
Speaker of the House - $223,500
Majority Leader - $193,400
Minority Leader - $193,400

Shakey for whip, balls for chief of staff, Morbs as majority leader

That plus however much he can make by selling off political favors, I guess. xp

Pobrecitos:

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/390260841188057088

ha there's a pretty funny response to that tweet from a California rep.

A comment from this article:

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/15/boehners-last-stand/?ref=opinion

Joe SabinFlorida
Verified
I grew up in a country that was known the world over for a few major things:

1. Greatest economy
2. Moral fiber -- no torture, fair justice and prisons
3. Greatest democracy a model for the world
4. Anyone could rise up the ladder of success with hard work.

Please dear Republicans, don't destroy all of these things during my lifetime! Fund the government and our debt.

Thank you!

Speaking as someone from a place where the state GOP chairman once complained about That Jew, Chuck Schumer, I'd love nothing more than to see one of the Chosen People bang the gavel for the Tea Party Party.

Fin

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390279686712221696

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390280273352744960

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390280654161969153

wow

hahahahahaha

btw his formal title is That Schmuck, Chuck Schumer

'lol just kidding' --john boehner

“It’s all over. We’ll take the Senate deal,” says a senior GOP aide. Senator Mitch McConnell’s office quickly noted to reporters that the Kentucky Republican would be taking back the lead.

A key moment in the fight came when Heritage Action announced it was “key voting” against the bill. Support was already flagging, and the decision made up the minds of many members sitting on the fence.

“People are thinking about primaries, they really are,” says a GOP chief of staff.

Although leadership had been working to amend the bill throughout the day to cater to GOP critics, the final iteration Boehner landed on provoked head-scratching among much of the GOP conference.

Ben Kissling
• 25 minutes ago

I continue to be amazed at people who think that blocking something bad is not an important role. According to Washington, only people who get bills passed into law count for anything. It's like you believe there are no negative forces acting in our government that must be opposed.

I guess that explains a lot about establishment Republicans.

The guy trying to primary Boehner next year has an explanation

http://www.redstate.com/ericgurr/2013/10/15/why-the-gop-loses-so-often/

@sahilkapur: .@senjohnmccain: "Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago." http://t.co/eSi8ZSYO7A

mccain trying to make people learn lesson w/e grandpa

maverick

what is "key voting"?

It's the votes they keep track of for their "report cards". If you don't vote according to the dipshits' bidding, you won't get an A

Negotiation 101

The first rule is that you must negotiate as if you expect to win.

that's the only rule! if you believe enough, your wishes will come true marantha jesus christ

First and only rule of negotiation in Congress: count your votes; when you have enough votes to win, then you win. Let's see now... it takes 60 votes to get anything done in the Senate, and if the president vetos a bill, it takes...(mumbles, fiddles with fingers) Nope! Not enough votes. You lose.

tbf the tactic worked for them before

not that they shouldntve known that it wouldn't this time

cruzs college roommate lmao

@clmazin: One thing Ted Cruz is really good at: uniting people who otherwise disagree about everything else in a total hatred of Ted Cruz.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/obama-has-already-won-the-shutdown-fight-and-hes-coming-for

. . . your women

This isn't funny anymore.

No dude it's still kind of funny.

I mean come on. "Boehner".

lol

underutilised imo

Good morning! Are we done yet?

we're done

lol every single blogger on twitter bragging they predicted this outcome, lol dudes everyone knew boehner relenting was the most probable end come on

doesnt mean there wasnt a black swan lurking tho

is it too early to drink?

too early not to imo

cheers

I was done in 1984

1884

it looks like it is over but there are still votes that have to happen in both Senate and House. It's very likely these will happen exactly as outlined, but I'm not calling it done until the votes go through. I wouldn't put it past the Republicans to enact some last minute shenanigans to blow it all up again.

Just now:

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/390485943276158976

RT @sahilkapur Multiple Senate sources say Boehner has agreed to vote first on the Reid-McConnell deal. Game over.

reposting after the madness cos this is really good:

pretty sly and semi-convincing piece of radical writing here:

http://jacobinmag.com/2013/10/tea-party-yankees/

basically, "the tea party is correct in loving the constitution the way they do... and that's why the constitution is bad gree hee hee"

― goole, Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Over" and then the Republican get to cause trouble again in January.

And despite what most see as a debacle for Republicans, a core group of conservatives insisted Tuesday that they are winning their battle to force concessions from Democrats on fiscal issues.

The president, they say, has been forced into a negotiation, even though he has said he will cede nothing in exchange for opening the government and raising the debt ceiling. The nation’s attention has been focused on problems with the health-care law. And, they say, making Boehner move to the right is itself a victory.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/failure-of-boehners-plan-shows/2013/10/15/0dcbfcc8-35bf-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story_1.html

xp otm, i thought it was a good piece

did u read the jstor link to the article about how the founders were anti-democracy?

no, i didn't. i should check it out (if jstor works for me)

not "over" -- offseason.

NJ Democrats can comfort themselves today by voting for that POS Booker.

i'm vaguely aware of the 18th cent connotation of "democracy" as "mob rule" tho

xp