American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

costa confirms it, no vote in the house

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/390238414031040512

I dunno if he'd be more effective, these people aren't really controllable

xp

i don't know if they can be better guided by their party leaders but i know that pretty much anyone else would show more [whatever intangible quality] 'leadership' than boehner

After looking at what Boehner's gone through the last three weeks, no sane person would accept the speaker's position. So obvs it will have to be a nut.

there have been inklings of cantor's interest in the past but i kinda think if he was gonna make the move it would've been in january. i could be wrong though.

More and more I think it's becoming clear that this is just about Boehner's job

It's a rough economy. Gotta keep a job if you have one.

might get a whole lot rougher pretty soon

balls, do u think us is going to default?

poor Juan Williams up against Rich LOLry and George Will on FOX.

Would you get booted if you turned to Rich and said, "You're the guy who felt starbursts of joy when Palin winked at you, right?"?

"you betcha"

Boner

I mean, that's what his penis does

In that situation

I have to go now

"You don't call pain default," Will said.

"These are splittable differences," Will said.

"You're a happy warrior tonight!" Juan Williams said.

I know it's been noted here before but George Will is such a weirdo

btw Pat Robertson called on the GOP to wave the white flag, i'd link it if i thought you hobbyists didnt have enough schadenporn to read.

i'm still like 'surely there's no fucking way' but man, that amazing grace shit. i posted this last night - http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/14/for-many-hard-liners-debt-default-is-the-goal/?_r=0 - but i think a cabal of generally genuinely pretty dumb ppl who've been living in an echo chamber that is telling them that they're doing the right thing so far (been plenty of congressmen saying the only phonecalls they've gotten from constituents have been positive), that debt default is a thing to be desired, that if it does turn out bad obama will only get the blame anyway, that the polls are in their favor or if they're not they're skewed, and that the gop didn't lose in 95/96 or if they did it was only cuz they didn't hold out longer. you're talking about a group of wannabe martyrs that's deepest wish is to be alive when the apocalypse happens, and the spectre of wall street doesn't mean what it might've once since most of them consider themselves 'anti-wall street'.

I know it's been noted here before but George Will is such a weirdo

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw Pat Robertson called on the GOP to wave the white flag, i'd link it if i thought you hobbyists didnt have enough schadenporn to read.

― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:01 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbqHZiap_u4

youre brilliant

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2010/12/fonzie_henry_winkler_happy_days.jpg

How much extra does the speaker job pay? Because Boehner would still have his primary job.

hell I'd take the job

The current salary (2013) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.

House Leadership
Speaker of the House - $223,500
Majority Leader - $193,400
Minority Leader - $193,400

Shakey for whip, balls for chief of staff, Morbs as majority leader

That plus however much he can make by selling off political favors, I guess. xp

Pobrecitos:

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/390260841188057088

ha there's a pretty funny response to that tweet from a California rep.

A comment from this article:

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/15/boehners-last-stand/?ref=opinion

Joe SabinFlorida
Verified
I grew up in a country that was known the world over for a few major things:

1. Greatest economy
2. Moral fiber -- no torture, fair justice and prisons
3. Greatest democracy a model for the world
4. Anyone could rise up the ladder of success with hard work.

Please dear Republicans, don't destroy all of these things during my lifetime! Fund the government and our debt.

Thank you!

Speaking as someone from a place where the state GOP chairman once complained about That Jew, Chuck Schumer, I'd love nothing more than to see one of the Chosen People bang the gavel for the Tea Party Party.

Fin

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390279686712221696

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390280273352744960

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/390280654161969153

wow

hahahahahaha

btw his formal title is That Schmuck, Chuck Schumer

'lol just kidding' --john boehner

“It’s all over. We’ll take the Senate deal,” says a senior GOP aide. Senator Mitch McConnell’s office quickly noted to reporters that the Kentucky Republican would be taking back the lead.

A key moment in the fight came when Heritage Action announced it was “key voting” against the bill. Support was already flagging, and the decision made up the minds of many members sitting on the fence.

“People are thinking about primaries, they really are,” says a GOP chief of staff.

Although leadership had been working to amend the bill throughout the day to cater to GOP critics, the final iteration Boehner landed on provoked head-scratching among much of the GOP conference.

Ben Kissling
• 25 minutes ago

I continue to be amazed at people who think that blocking something bad is not an important role. According to Washington, only people who get bills passed into law count for anything. It's like you believe there are no negative forces acting in our government that must be opposed.

I guess that explains a lot about establishment Republicans.

The guy trying to primary Boehner next year has an explanation

http://www.redstate.com/ericgurr/2013/10/15/why-the-gop-loses-so-often/

@sahilkapur: .@senjohnmccain: "Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago." http://t.co/eSi8ZSYO7A

mccain trying to make people learn lesson w/e grandpa

maverick

what is "key voting"?

It's the votes they keep track of for their "report cards". If you don't vote according to the dipshits' bidding, you won't get an A

Negotiation 101

The first rule is that you must negotiate as if you expect to win.

that's the only rule! if you believe enough, your wishes will come true marantha jesus christ

First and only rule of negotiation in Congress: count your votes; when you have enough votes to win, then you win. Let's see now... it takes 60 votes to get anything done in the Senate, and if the president vetos a bill, it takes...(mumbles, fiddles with fingers) Nope! Not enough votes. You lose.

tbf the tactic worked for them before

not that they shouldntve known that it wouldn't this time