American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

Pushing mandate back a little bit while they work out the bugs seems like an OK compromise, tbh.

well they still have a couple months

what are the bugs? the website doesn't work quickly enough?

often doesnt work at all

Instead of giving you insurance it automatically assigns you to a death panel

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no, thats what its supposed to do

Really screws up the plan to grow the risk pool

Many users of the federal exchange were stuck at square one. A New York Times researcher, for instance, managed to register at 6 a.m. on Oct. 1. But despite more than 40 attempts over the next 11 days, she was never able to log in. Her last attempts led her to a blank screen.

this is like when GTA online doesn't work for the first few weeks for everyone bc too many ppl are trying to play at once but over the next 6 months presumably everyone will get to login and create a character?

yeah prob

GTA 5 also giving away $250M to each player who put up with that crap. Looking forward to the Fed doing the same.

and acc to NPR ppl can fill out paperwork to get into the exchanges too so the website is just a convenience?

xp That's $250M in the game world, right? So to make an analogy if the government were to extend $250M in healthcare credits to everyone inconvenienced here... you'd end up with a single-payer system by stealth lol

i hope it gets fixed soon. tried to sign up, the NY site IS a disaster, going up and down every other day

this is like when GTA online doesn't work for the first few weeks for everyone bc too many ppl are trying to play at once but over the next 6 months presumably everyone will get to login and create a character?

Yeah, except this is not a video game and is funded by tax dollars an is driven by a Federal law that requires millions and millions of people to sign up. What I read blamed the coding itself, like they spent all of their efforts making it easy to use, and somehow skipped the part of the process that made it actually work. There's really no excuse short of LOL government, it can't do anything right.

a lot of tech people w relevant experience are saying things like 'its takes more people to fill out the necessary paperwork to bid on government contracts than it does to build the actual project' so basically you tend to get a lot of companies that are really good at filling out paperwork working on these things is one theory

Quick q is there an exploit on the ACA website that will let me launch my car from a swingset y/n?

tho to me incredibly large complex project built w too many cooks in the kitchen has entirely predictable temporary launch problems sounds like a perfectly resonable explination

beginning to understand why the irs doesn't have their own filing site and instead just says 'use turbotax or whatever'.

nah that's totally due to business interests

http://www.propublica.org/article/republicans-and-dems-come-together-to-keep-irs-from-competing-turbotax

Fell out of a helicopter from 20,000 ft and walked out of the hospital with a $5000 deductible taken out of my stats. And some of you say this isn't a video game.

ninex otm

is there a new wrecking crew of college republicans jamming the exchange sites? i wouldn't put straight-up sabotage past crooked "conservatives"

that's some NRO-level conspiracy theorizing there imho

I mean, it's much easier to believe that there are actually that many people out there who want/need gov't-funded health insurance

ppl are spoiled by technology </louisck>

that's some NRO-level conspiracy theorizing there imho

Too many website hits were happening at first though. Most likely just curious people with insurance or people who had no idea what the exchanges are for.

heaven forbid people want the government to compedently use avalible technology to give people access to the government, spoiled brats

otm

we're talking about a party that lied america into a war in iraq. crashing government websites is montessori school hijinks compared to that

wait you mean Dick Cheney crashed the ARRA site? why that diabolical

tea leaves http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/are-democrats-demanding-their-own-ransom-now.html

you think shotgun cheney's gonna pay a tax on his pacemaker?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/reid-hopeful-that-debt-deal-will-be-ready-by-monday-afternoon

"I hope so," Reid said when asked if a proposal would be ready for a 3 p.m. meeting with himself, McConnell, President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

there should be a guy with a hat marked "Surrogate" at the table that speaks the will of Ted Cruz, a la season 3 of Arrested Development

As a group of high-powered staff members, representing the most powerful politicians at the top of the executive and legislative, branches huddle together in a conference room over sandwiches and mineral water, we overhear the following exchange:

A: We're all going to have to give something here, right?

B: Yes. We know that. The consquences of inaction are much too grave.

C: Obviously. A debt default would hurt the banks.

D: And not just here. Everywhere.

A: We're not about to do that. We can all agree?

All: Yes. We're ready to make sacrifices for the common good.

A: Then it's decided. We'll sacrifice the poor.

Toasts are raised and jubilation breaks out.

meta: tnr tries to get robert costa killed

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115179/robert-costa-interview-national-review-reporter-talks-about-shutdown

erickson was bitching about costa earlier and some breitbart 'reporter' was throwing shade on twitter

cool how this is the USA '13 and not the soviet union '37 because these guys would totally be show trialing the shit out of each other

costa is a phishhead

CNN just broke: the deal is: government opened immediately, debt ceiling lifted until February; the Democratic concession is income verification.

and how does john boehner feel about this

BOEHNER: I'm out for Bob Costa's head.

HENLEY: Well, yeah

I hope there were secret protocols to the effect that this hostage-taking shit won't happen again, bcz if not, then hello February debt crisis.

theres this http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/10/14/democrats_dare_gop_to_provoke_another_debt_crisis.html

how grand is your bargain

honestly tho i doubt republicans even wingnuts will want to do this again anytime soon

I'm surprised you posted that!

the only palliative here is 2014 is a congressional election y ear, and the GOP wants to forget about this farrago as quickly as possible, but this assumes they're rational.

enough of them are rational enough imho, like this did not at all play out how they planned and they know that