American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

I'm still a Chris Hayes stan; the other MSNBC people are all rah-rah Obama

<3 hayes and melissa harris-perry

o'donnell just had on the reporter costa (nat'l review) who said iirc the (house) GOP was in fact concerned about the debt ceiling, they'll raise it, but many members not worried about the shutdown..

Costa's been invaluable the last week, admittedly.

i like hayes and maddow but i almost never watch it. watch olbermann more tbh lol.

I'm still a Chris Hayes stan; the other MSNBC people are all rah-rah Obama

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 11, 2013 2:24 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Except the morning joe shitfest of course

http://ridefortheconstitution.org

Lololol

Such a powerful movement that not even their domain name can be controlled.

That's the dumb fake trucker thing fyi

femalestudentfortheconstitution.jpg

I thought the Heritage Foundation came up with what became Obamacare during the Reagan administration ... not sure where Clinton's coming into this

They were pushing the individual mandate in papers back in 1989, but they didn't propose the Heritage Consumer Choice Health Plan until 1992, when the Presidential campaign was making Health Care reform seem inevitable.

watch olbermann more tbh lol.

― balls, Friday, October 11, 2013 2:49 AM (

He's just doing baseball post-game stuff now isn't he? And his baseball patter is annoying I think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/halved-paychecks-force-the-furloughed-to-slash-expenses-and-take-loans-second-jobs/2013/10/10/28867fd2-31c0-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_story.html?hpid=z1

The paycheck federal workers have been dreading hit bank accounts across the region Friday, representing salaries cut in half for most idled employees. The next payday will be all zeros, and with furloughs dragging on, civil servants are settling into a financial crouch, slashing expenses, canceling vacations, tapping retirement savings and taking second jobs.

Check out this rogue's gallery: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/right-leaning

lol http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112332/how-tell-members-congress-apart

attempt to identify the republican hardcore http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/10/house_republicans_the_hell_no_caucus_and_moderates_which_house_gop_members.single.html

another rogues gallery coming to Washington this weekend-- the anti-abortion, social issues ones

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/whos-who-values-voter-summit-2013

That Rick Perlstein piece agrees a great deal with what guys like George Lakoff have said for years; when you argue with the other person's terms, even against im them, you reinforce the thinking behind their construction. You've already lost when you start with "look how sensible these particular conservative positions are/were"

remember when Obama praised Paul Ryan's "ideas" at that January 2010 teach-in?

No need for scare quotes there, Lord Sotosyn. Bad ideas, confused ideas, harmful ideas, are all still ideas.

Ryan didn't present ideas so much as Reaganite puddles of goo

Sadly, some of that goo obama already agreed to in grand bargain talks.

Meanwhile:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/10/nine-ways-the-shutdown-will-get-more-painful-as-it-drags-on/?wprss=rss_business&clsrd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWT_WasCYAAsmf0.jpg

lol

hahaha

uprising leader

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/03/03/PH2010030301365.jpg

looool

#tgdn?

http://tgdn.org/

fuxake

twitter gulag defense network

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defending every gulag, one tweet at a time

hahaha that washington post thing is awesome

@washingtonpost #major #social #win #lmao

http://i.imgur.com/YufIPSg.png

Patriots.followed by Congressman Darrel Issa
Ohio

aaaaaaaaaaa

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#twitterhack #hackingskills

did Bezos put a smartalecky nephew in the Twitter seat?

I hope so.

President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) spoke by phone this afternoon, spokesmen said.

The takeaway: The dialogue continues.

It's a "dialogue"...not a negotiation.

the takeaway: democrats are sitting around our poll numbers roasting smores and making out

NY Times takeaway differs from Washington Post:

Dems to give away poll advantage by agreeing to deal that would allow the following

The aide added that there also would be either a delay or an easing of a tax on medical devices that is part of the health care law, but that the repeal of the tax was now off the table.

plus maintain sequester level funding for a short time

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Start your response with a period.
Example: .@DumbCommie Your messiah is an idiot. Go troll somewhere else.
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#delusionsofsovereignty

Ha ha

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That's from the Susan Collins and Moderate Dem West VA senator Manchin talks

put Collins and Manchin in a bag with a snake, scorpion, and Ted Cruz.

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ted-cruz-AP.jpg

Dog man and the king of snake

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ted+Cruz+2012+Republican+National+Convention+8eS0uX0i0ipl.jpg

Mongoose and the king of snake

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/08/02/us/CRUZ/CRUZ-articleInline.jpg

Twenty-four hours with the king of snake

Man, every time I think "THAT'S the most punchable face in the GOP," they up the ante.

it's like he's daring you to punch him

we have a state rep primary coming up in Texas and I've started receiving mail from the competing democrats where they photoshop the face of the opponent sandwiched between Rick Perry and Ted Cruz as a way to discredit them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/13/magazine/the-final-insult-in-the-bush-cheney-marriage.html?pagewanted=4&_r=0&smid=tw-nytimes&partner=rss&emc=rss

this get linked yet?

Etc etc:

President Barack Obama spoke with House Speaker John Boehner on Friday but did not wholly accept the House Republican plan to open government, raise the debt ceiling and open budget talks, sources said.

“The President and the Speaker spoke by telephone a few minutes ago. They agreed that we should all keep talking,” said Michael Steel, a spokesman for Boehner.

Senior Republican sources say Obama is amenable to changes to mandatory and discretionary spending, but needs Republicans to commit to increasing governmental revenue. Obama also acknowledged that an unpopular medical device tax is not core to the health care law, GOP senators said after the meeting. That tax has been in the crosshairs of senators from both parties working toward a broad agreement.

Dems to give away poll advantage by agreeing to deal that would allow the following

The aide added that there also would be either a delay or an easing of a tax on medical devices that is part of the health care law, but that the repeal of the tax was now off the table.

plus maintain sequester level funding for a short time

― curmudgeon, Friday, October 11, 2013 4:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would be a huge victory for the democrats, trading a decrease in the medical device tax for an end to sequestration, that major positive reveune flow, EXCEPT the fact that it at least in appearance continues the practice of bargaining over the debt ceiling, i mean who knows maybe the republicans are sufficiently scared off of using it, but best case scenario is to have the deal include and end to the debt ceiling once and for all

paul ryan is apparently offering said deal PLUS demanding entitlement cuts as well lol of course http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/paul-ryans-ridiculously-unfair-deal.html