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idk they could probably do it better but you're sounding like my coworker who likes to rant about how parts of the company I work for could be much more efficient when he's like a low-level business analyst

xp to Lee626, head of shipping logistics

just upgrade tens of thousands of delivery trucks all across the US at hundreds of dollars a truck, it's no big deal

UPS probably paid a huge amount of money for custom software to do tracking and notifications. Realities of enterprise procurement make it slow and expensive to change stuff.

If I'm right, they should've gone in-house, that software basically is their business.

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beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh)
Posted: October 10, 2013 at 5:05:36 PM
idk they could probably do it better but you're sounding like my coworker who likes to rant about how parts of the company I work for could be much more efficient when he's like a low-level business analyst

some nerve mere consumers challenging professional programmers itt, know yr place people ffs

having used stuff that works good before is not a valid argument

kneel before the programmers hard won knowledge of corporate dysfunction

Yes the huge number of pacakages and larger number of stops complicates logistics, but it's no more difficult to send out an automated text when the truck enters my city, and it shouldn't take more than a few seconds to reach me like any other txt.

How many packages are on the truck? How many different people need to be notified when it leaves its origin point/arrives at its destination? How many stops is it going to make and is it going to trigger another update after every stop? How long does each of these transactions take and how does that time increase as the source database increases? How long does it take to remove delivered packages from the system and does that impact performance for live updating? Are delivered packages ever even purged, and if not how does the increasing database of delivery information impact current query/update performance, plus what is the rate of growth for storage costs for this ever-increasing database of increasingly out-of-date information?

These are a subset of the questions you need to answer before you can get the type of system you're looking for, and that's before even looking into the cost of creation and implementation.

youre right that would be totally impossible to code

lol you are dumm

lol you are arrogant

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sorry that "knowing something about a topic" = "arrogant", let me comfort u

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my friend who works on this stuff has a doctorate in physics and works in a company of fellow doctorates in physics. it's funny when we talk because they're working on like optimizing Dell deliveries but it turns out to be a massively complicated (and lucrative) line of work

your sophistry is vv impressive to everyone dan, i assure you

and does not at all typify willful nerd point missing

lol okay Pot

seriously what are you even saying, that ups making their tracking system better would require work, does anyone think it would not, are you saying that it would be impossible to broadcast realtime info, are you denying the completely banal observation that its not a great product

What I'm saying is:

- the UPS tracking system falls within an accepted industry standard;
- improving it to the point suggested is a long-term goal that's going to be massively expensive, which is why it doesn't exist now

The question "I can send a text to someone almost instantaneously, so why can't UPS send a text to me instantaneously?" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem, which is tied to multiple sources broadcasting multiple messages to multiple people while coordinating them through a centralized system that likely has several points of replication/redundancy built into it, and coordinating all of those transactions in the most efficient way possible takes time. Someone could and probably will come up with a way to shorten that window but the return on investment has to make it worth implementing; is UPS losing business because they update their tracking information in 10-15 minute increments rather than 5-10 second increments? If not, why would they spend the money to implement this?

so like

only thing stopping them is prob the cost, all those little things scaled up to their millions and billions of deliveries, this is a company that designs its routes so that its trucks can make right turns at lights in order to save gas after all

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're the one who decided to take exception to my tone even though we were making the exact same argumet

well it did seem a bit dismissive of a completely valid point which anyone is totally qualified to make, that ups et als tracking is not a great product which lags well behind the cutting endge

and i do think theyre prob wrong that its not worth the cost tho, particularly considering the emergence of the realtime web and app interoperability, i wouldnt be surprised if theyve already come to this conclusion and are building realtime tracking as we speak

I wouldn't either, but the complaint was "it's ridiculous that they don't have this right now"

its a little bit ridiculous

I have no problems with complaining or saying shit could be better

just the armchair coaching like saying batteries could totally handle this or some local freight dude can do this why can't UPS

my anecdote was basically that there are usually reasons things suck but armchair quarterbacking this is lol

why don't they just have an inductive charger docking station in the truck that charges the device AND syncs it omg so obvious

mh OTM

UPS trucks are basically all metal, make the truck itself an antenna, then you don't have to worry about cell reception

new iPad - when?

tlg, iPad event at the end of this month, so probably no later than early November

sorry for my misplaced anecdote, it was just on my mind and always kills me how contrived big companies can be with data

just the armchair coaching like saying batteries could totally handle this

― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:03 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lees observation about the size of the device compared to an iphone and room for a battery was totally valid tho, maybe you are a battery expert that can explain why more space for a bigger battery doesnt equal longer battery life idk, i think we all agree at this point that it comes down to business decisions which i dont think anyone itt is an expert at

anyway imho its pretty absurd that company which describes its what it does as logistics cant tell you reliably when your package is gonna be there etc

tbh I just get irritated by Lee's posting style although I am sure he's a swell guy

hah

delivered, beat u sunny

crap

i mean congratulations!

now we're at the 3 o'clock hour i probably wont see this thing until 7pm. LAME.

Hi from 5s

high 5s

also how did this thread turn into the tl;dr of 1st world probs

it's a f'kn phone not a poison antidote

I think it started here: New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

why can't I just print out my iphone on my 3d printer

lol dan

tbh I just get irritated by Lee's posting style although I am sure he's a swell guy

― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:24 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which we've known all along; i'd argue i'm not really a swell guy either....

I'm fully aware that UPS's tracking is fine for most of us, most of the time. But lest you think improved tracking accuracy will not be adequately valued by customers in the form of willingness to pay more or switch shipping agents, consider how UPS and FedEx stole so much of the shipping business from the USPS in the first place. Third-party shipping agents barely existed before the 1970s, when FedEx began reliable overnight delivery services. UPS, which had been along for a long time as well, really started to clean up when it became the favored shipping agent of both huge warehouses like Amazon and one-at-a-time amateurs selling on eBay. The USPS could ship packages for the same price, but UPS included free $100 insurance, free online tracking, a delivery day assigned before you ship it, and several other useful perks that shippers of all stripes cared about. I used UPS to ship my eBay items out because only they had a decent tracking system that would show where an item was shipped from, in-progress updates, and what date and time it was signed for. The USPS extra-cost delivery confirmation just told you it was received. Over the years, the USPS lost huge sums of money as the 'net replaced much letter writing, billing, and catalogue delivery; and they lost the shipping business to private competetors that did it better. The USPS finally responded recently with an upgraded tracking system that has all the features UPS had 10 years ago.

Point is, a substantial number of consumers care about good tracking, and organisations that ignore what consumers want will be outmanouvered by competetors that deliver it. Point is not that i'm a shipping or telecom logistics expert who is qualified to suggest where improvements be made, what it would cost, or the feasibility of it all.

I'm beyond done with my shipping rant, let's go back to talking abt the latest apple gizmos and the anxious awaiting of our new iPhones, etc.