They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

i'm halfway through reading this thread but the question that keeps on sticking in my mind is why does the big kahuna gray dude run all the way across the field to the nice jettisoned human ship after his horseshoe ship crashes

thats yr question?

seems to me if my ship just got rammed by another ship and i crashed down to land, first thing i'd be going for is the other side's insurance info

let's go straight to the source:

The Engineer lies motionless. Is he DEAD?
NO. He moves now. Slow at first -- an ACCIDENT VICTIM...
but finally manages to SIT UP. HE PULLS OFF HIS DAMAGED
HELMET, puts his hand to his TEMPLE --
BLOOD. The God is actually HURT.
And this makes him ANGRY

He rises to his FULL HEIGHT NOW, FEET STRIDING PAST DAVID’S
HEAD as The Engineer approaches a CONSOLE -- A combination of
WAVES AND SNAPS ACTIVATES --
AN EXTERIOR VIDEO ARRAY
A 360 DEGREE VIEW of the area OUTSIDE OF THE JUGGERNAUT. We
see the SETTING SUN. The flaming WRECKAGE of the MAGELLAN.
But most IMPORTANTLY?
We see a PERSON. Walking away from the ship. Tiny in the
vastness of the desert -- But now the Engineer ZOOMS IN. And
there’s no mistaking who it is --
SHAW

And as we look into the Engineer’s DARK, DARK EYES as he SEES
HER... Perhaps the only survivor of the ship that has KNOCKED
HIM FROM THE HEAVENS, WE SMASH TO

EXT. PLANET, CRASH SITE, VICKERS’ MODULE - DUSK

LIIIINNNNDEEEELOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFF

also: atmosphere inside ship was normalized to earth's atmosphere, humans could breathe, etc. - but all the space jockeys wore their elephant suits, except fro the gray dude, who didn't need it.

i have no recollection of this movie i realise, shaw is not george bernard i suppose

perhaps this will refresh your memory

INT. TENT - NIGHT
BLACK.
A BURST OF STATIC -- Then... SOMEONE leaning over camera --
Turning it on.
It’s SHAW. She is dirty, but sexily so.

now i'm getting robert

One of the pre-Lindelof drafts of the script by John Speihts leaked right around the time the movie came out on dvd. It was actually pretty good. A bit too prequel-y, but it had a lot of cool scenes and ideas. Plus it actually made sense.

Lindelof really deserves every ounce of shit he's gotten

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/jon-spaihts-confirms-his-leaked-prometheus-script-titled-alien-engineers-is-legit-6-things-that-changed-from-the-original-script-20121112

i'm halfway through reading this thread but the question that keeps on sticking in my mind is why does the big kahuna gray dude run all the way across the field to the nice jettisoned human ship after his horseshoe ship crashes

― 乒乓, Monday, October 7, 2013 7:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats yr question?

― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Monday, October 7, 2013 8:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good premise for a sequel imo, humanity outfits a space expedition to tackle the ultimate mysteries of life itself the motives of the characters in Prometheus

what about "vengeful creator species returns to Earth to hunt down and crush everybody responsible for Prometheus?"

running the 'experiments' on the head was really stupid too

the equivalent being, like

*find perfectly preserved mammoth head in frozen siberian tundra*

*stick a hot electric needle into it just to see what happens*

id imagine that this is p much how a person of lindelhof's world view feels about scientists tho

The head thing was also one of the dumbest allusions to the original Alien. It'd been cool if they'd tried to recreate the kinda-obvious cut between the mannequin head and Ian Holm covered in milky goo.

http://i.imgur.com/G0FQTqN.jpg

INT. SPACECRAFT - SLEEP WING

A SLEEP POD quietly opens.
Out steps a MAN. But not just any man. It's -
DAMON LINDELOF.

LINDELOFF takes a few tentative stretches, then he TAKES OFF HIS OWN HEAD.
HE IS A ROBOT! AND HE IS YELLING! HE IS YELLING AT US TO ...

Lindeloff: Turn back!

His DISEMBODIED HEAD then VOMITS. Out comes a SCREENPLAY, followed by PILES OF MONEY, like a Satanic ATM.

Would wear

http://i.imgur.com/Ut7pvAw.jpg

Is there talk of a follow up being in production or anything? Or was it considered too much of a disaster? Seemed to be deliberately setting itself up for a sequel.
Have to go and see another to see if its as good/bad as this.

Seemed to be deliberately setting itself up for a sequel.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5VqKDR34LSI/UL__EWqHk2I/AAAAAAAAFqM/Clk4a-xjvsw/s1600/alien_poster.jpg

Well yeah, but I thought she (Noomi Rapace) was off to roam the universe and deliver hurt unto the bastard Alien types with her sidekick David, a reconnected head. For thinking they was like God and shit.

Hundreds of years pass ...

hurt, iirc, gets delivered unto the bastard alien types in the 1979 movie?

heh

Scott is apparently doing a sequel sans Lindelof

a bastard alien type gets delivered through John Hurt in that 1979 film but it's a different species.

Certainly looked at the end of Prometheus as though they intended to continue the story of the character played by Noomi Rapace. IMDB has an entry for a Prometheus 2 but not fully populated, so I am still wondering if that is on the books even if it is backburnered.

Was Prometheus thought to be a success on any level? Box office or critical or other audience-wise? Or was it just a mess that people went to see out of curiosity over the Ripley trilogy or quadrilogy or whatever.
& it probably was a better film than the Alien Vs Predator ones wasn't it, somebody probably already says that earlier in the thread.

it was a total success in being a huge wasteful clusterfuck and generating a great ilx thread

i think the AVP had such low expectations that people (incl. james cameron) were almost pleasantly surprised by it.

Was Prometheus thought to be a success on any level? Box office or critical or other audience-wise?

― Stevolende, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:57 PM (44 minutes ago)

Rotten Tomatoes = 74% (269 critical reviews), 69% audience
Metacritic = 65/100
IMDB = 7.1/10

Box Office
Worldwide Gross: $404M
Budget: $180M

lol fanboys will suck up any shit, proven by science again and again

I watched Alien the other day and the scene with the navigator in the boneship is so haunting

This (Prometheus) is so unnecessary – everything that matters is there in that scene in Alien

Kind of more of a dilution of the franchise than AvP because it comes so much closer to being worthwhile

nah there can't be a frame in AvP that's less worthwhile than this idiot joke

and i say this assuming that AvP is shite for manchildren

The thing with AvP is that the film taps into the lowest possible level of the Alien franchise – some execs clearly got together, looked up two Classic Movie Monsters, and put them together, much like they've been doing for years (Dracula vs Werewolf vs Swamp Man or whatever). As far as AvP is concerned, the Giger alien is just another movie monster with a set of abilities that we know about before we watch the film, it impregnates people like how Dracula drinks blood and the Mummy wears bandages.

IIRC you also see the alien's foot several times in the film which shows what level we're working on. AvP (and Alien Resurrection) might be bad films but they don't go anywhere near the parts of Alien that actually matter.

Whereas Prometheus ...

And it's also sad how much that was supposedly clever and revelatory (and which fell flat) in Prometheus was just a retread of AvP. I mean, they both feature the ageing/dying original Weyland on a quest to find alien answers, and discover the secret creators/rulers of humanity. In Prometheus they're space jockeys, in AvP they're Predators, and in neither case were the answers worth the viewing.

I'll take trash (AVP) over garbage (this)

Are there any good films where it turns out that aliens created people? With the exception of Quatermass & The Pit I can't think of any

2001 bro (ok yeah you can split hairs about what constitutes "creation" but c'mon now)

From watching the lengthy making-of documentary on this, it's clear that the entire production was rushed due to a tight turnaround. The design departments managed to pull off - and I still think it looks great - but the script is, obviously, just a completely badly thought through, underdeveloped shambles, and Ridley Scott himself made a lot of bad choices on top of it (not least the last minute decision to back away from Prometheus being a straight ahead prequel to Alien). I don't hate it; I like the look of it, and the design, I like Fassbender and Theron, and I like the Forbidden Planet-y space exploration vibe, but it's massively frustrating, story wise.

AVP is just noise.

A well designed, well acted prequel to a great franchise that has a piece of shit script is much more worthy of scorn than a knockoff avp type reboot

tbf i did think it explored the theme of helmets rather well

lindelof with insider fuckin knowledge there obv

i'm hoping they make another one to go into that whole area of taking your boots off and putting them back on again

They covered that suit stuff pretty well in "Gravity," don't know if it will ever be done better.

god i love this ridiculous movie

I agree that AVP at least delivered what it promised - dumb schlock. It's still a headache to actually sit through though.

The whole of Prometheus needs to be redubbed with an entirely different script.

YOU need to be redubbed with an entirely different script