xxp i misread the thread title and was disappointed to find it wasn't about alan clarke.
Ha. I did the same. For whatever reason, I constantly can't remember Alan Clarke's name or I get him mixed up with others with similar names. I've been doing it for years.
― circa1916, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:29 (twelve years ago)
haven't seen Angel Heart in at least 20 years, just say "good pulp" I guess, plus Rourke's line readings before he lost his mind.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2013 01:30 (twelve years ago)
Bugsy malone is the only one of these I care about. So pissed you can't get it on dvd here.
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 October 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)
I remember some documentary Parker did on films for the BBC or Channel 4 sometime in the 1980s. It was a lot of fun, he had some cinéaste from the BFI droning on who slowly got faded out and replaced by Parker himself playing the organ. I lol'd.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 7 October 2013 08:13 (twelve years ago)
Were it not for my grade 10 teacher somehow getting away with showing us The Wall in class, I haven't seen any of these. Something about his films--not the fact of him as a director, just a lot of the films themselves--just set off major warning bells for me.
Will say that Shoot the Moon and Midnight Express look like things I should check out one day. Birdy, too, if I knew more about it.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 7 October 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)
Birdy = plentiful Matthew Modine nudity. Good WW2 novel of eccentric boyhood pals updated to Vietnam with mixed results.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
yes, the novel (by william wharton) that birdy is based on is quite good, iirc.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)
actually, Nic Cage plays the stright arrow to Modine, that's now a hoot
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
first movie I ever saw him in! And damn sexy. Both were, actually.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)
It was a lot of fun, he had some cinéaste from the BFI droning on who slowly got faded out and replaced by Parker himself playing the organ. I lol'd.
hooray for phillistinism
Parker was Chairman of the BFI in the late 1990s, and said some truly moronic things abt 'uncommercial' british filmmakers like Peter Greenaway.
Shoot the Moon is far and away his best movie, but it's more of a scriptwriter's film, imho
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:06 (twelve years ago)
Found the doc, it was called A Turnip Head's Guide to the British Film Industry:
http://alanparker.com/earlywork/a-turnip-heads-guide-to-the-british-film-industry/
There's a nice clip there of him having a (staged) argument with a kid. "It's MY film, ok? UN FILM DE."
Anthony Smith was the BFI guy who Parker took the piss out of in the film. No way is Parker a philistine. Populist, yes. And for the record, I like both Parker and Greenaway.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:38 (twelve years ago)
Both have made plenty of crap.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)
What's he been doing since David Gale? Strange for a journeyman director like Parker to go 10 years without making a film.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:11 (twelve years ago)
Diane Keaton's best perf ever is in Shoot the Moon, so he's got that going for him
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)
I'd have to rewatch, but not sure it can compete w/ iconic Woody roles or even Crimes of the Heart & Marvin's Room
but *headshake* there you go again
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:55 (twelve years ago)
It's on DVD (at last!) with an excellent Bo Goldman-Parker commentary track in which Parker doesn't come off as an aborigine.
Oh come on! What's so rebarbative about that judgment?!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)
it's very Pazz & Joppy
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:32 (twelve years ago)
I'd have given her #1 album for Annie Hall and STM.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:37 (twelve years ago)
Kael and not many others loved her in StM... I remember Kauffmann complaining that she called Finney 'Chorch'!
http://www.keatonshoot.blogspot.com/
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:52 (twelve years ago)
I dunno: she wins a majority in that compendium.
I read Kauffmann's criticism years ago and disagreed, especially in comparison with Reds, in which Beatty asks her to do embarrassing things.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:59 (twelve years ago)
thx for "rebarbative," wow
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)
very comfort
― balls, Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)
with an excellent Bo Goldman-Parker commentary track in which Parker doesn't come off as an aborigine.
noted in passing
― pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:50 (twelve years ago)
many xps but I think David Gale kinda put him in director jail for a while, as it was a truly truly dire movie
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:58 (twelve years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 11 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)
WTF
― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)
Haha David Gale vote.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
jesus The Wall is terrible.
― piscesx, Saturday, 12 October 2013 03:08 (twelve years ago)
well anyone w/ ears knows that
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)
all of these movies are terrible
― balls, Saturday, 12 October 2013 03:52 (twelve years ago)
The Wall is great
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Saturday, 12 October 2013 05:33 (twelve years ago)
I think in 30 years it will be agreed that Zero Dark Thirty is approximately as offensive as Mississippi Burning.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 October 2013 07:26 (twelve years ago)
RIP
Still no plans to go anywhere near Pink Floyd—The Wall or Evita.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:16 (five years ago)
He was like the English Joel Schumacher.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:33 (five years ago)
that's needlessly cruel and inaccurate
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:36 (five years ago)
Coming from Morbs! Anyway, I think it's pretty accurate. A sort of anonymous journeyman career that managed a few interesting hits, a bunch of stinkers, a couple of kitschy pop culture staples and more or less no impact or identity as a director, per se. Though Parker was rarely inept as a director, so at least he had that going for him.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:41 (five years ago)
I shiver at pondering Joel S's version of Shoot the Moon
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:56 (five years ago)
I'm really unexpectedly sad about this. I think i'd seen pretty much everything he'd ever done (including Tv's The Evacuees) by the time i was about 15, there was nothing i didn't at least like and i loved most of his stuff. What's weird is the after-life so many of his movies had; The Commitments was a massive hit album and spin-off band afterwards, Fame had the Tv show and records, and Bugsy Malone took on a life of its own in theatreland. That's not.. common is it? All that continuance. Pretty neat trick to be able to write things at such opposite ends of the emotional spectrum screenplay-wise too; Bugsy Malone is daft as a brush but heartfelt and touching, Angel Heart is properly dark and unsettling, and he wrote both by himself.
I love that he had a whole scene from a totally different movie in ‘Fame’ when the kids go on a date to see ‘The Rocky Horror Picture Show’, he just… plonks it in there! He even invited the local ‘regulars’ in their Rocky outfits. Such a fuckin cool idea that totally works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T3wrbOr68w
― piscesx, Friday, 31 July 2020 19:29 (five years ago)
Shoot the Moon came out of nowhere.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:39 (five years ago)
Fame and The Wall are fine; wasn't allowed to watch Angel Heart or Mississippi Burning when my parents rented them, and never bothered to catch up later. All I know about Midnight Express comes from Terror in the Aisles (and The Simpsons). Birdy and Shoot the Moon look interesting, and I've always been sorta curious about Bugsy Malone. Being a gay teen in 1996 who didn't give a shit about Evita was plenty alienating.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:49 (five years ago)
STM has Albert Finney and Diane Keaton's greatest performances and an unusually sharp script.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:53 (five years ago)
I'd only starting hearing good things about it in recent years; before that, I always kinda slotted it in with the whole AOR cinema genre.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:55 (five years ago)
That is a very high compliment for Finney especially, he's had a ton of great roles. I'll have to check it out. Tbh I always wrote off Parker as a near total hack.
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:55 (five years ago)
That's a nice post, piscesx. I had no idea he'd written Fame, which I still love.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:58 (five years ago)
Discussion of Shoot the Moon in this thread, with flappy bird particularly rhapsodic:
Albert Finney's Own Thread
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:51 (five years ago)
I'm fairly averse to marriage-ending, couples-bickering movies fwiw, is it one of those? My exception to that is Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, but that's perhaps another thing entirely.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:28 (five years ago)
kinda that yes
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:26 (five years ago)
nothing in common -- closer to Scenes From a Marriage.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:31 (five years ago)
oh yeah, i didnt mean it was like Va Woolf (that couple is staying together til death)
bickering, it's got bickering
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:39 (five years ago)