American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

buzz going on where?

This story has been showing up in various places as a sign that Boehner has made up his mind.

Prior to the shots in the capitol, had a huge red link at the top of their page saying "Boehner Blinks" and linking to the Times article.

I don't know how definitive it all is, but it sounds like he isn't planning to hold out forever.

That article focuses on the debt, and that deadline is not till October 17th.

WASHINGTON — President Obama will not invoke a constitutional amendment to unilaterally increase the nation’s debt limit if an impasse with House Republicans causes that ceiling to be breached Oct. 17, his spokesman said.

“We do not believe that the 14th amendment provides that authority to the president,” the White House press secretary, Jay Carney, said on Thursday. The president, he added, “completely” agrees with his advisers’ legal reasoning.

douthat tries to go deep

http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/why-the-right-fights/

ie conservatives aren't stuck in 2011, they're stuck in the goldwater campaign

tbf they are stuck in the antebellum

https://twitter.com/AlexNBCNews/status/385843289049427968

RT @NBCNews Female driver tried to ram her car into White House gate, Secret Service chased to Capitol Hill - @PeteWilliamsNBC

great plan

if only real life missions had save points like GTA5

When people stop being polite and start getting real:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=277339

:/

(lol @ "great plan")

“We do not believe that the 14th amendment provides that authority to the president”

Purse string issues are pretty clearly vested in the Congress.

But Congress legally required the government to take on all the obligations which the Congress now refuses to fund through either tax revenues or borrowing. But, of course, Congress will not vote to reduce those obligations either. Congress is throwing a tantrum in order to force issues that only it can address.

When people stop being polite and start getting real:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=277339

― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:12 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heavens

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 4m
"driver tried to ram the check point, Secret Service pursued the car and ends up at the capitol, and at 2nd and Con is when shooting happens

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/192346bgl9du3jpg/ku-bigpic.jpg

it's not clear the gunshots were anything other than capitol police firing on the driver

#Disgusting

i'm impressed that a 5-year old girl can use Twitter

Boy named Sue; girl named Tim

worst "false flag" ever:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/theyre-pulling-a-big-distraction-alex-jones-calls-washington-d-c-shooting-a-false-flag/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

please don't

it's not clear the gunshots were anything other than capitol police firing on the driver

― goole, Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:20 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ding

who apparently had a baby in the car if I'm reading reports correctly?

saw one tweet about a child, but not a baby

let alone HAVING one

Bad day: being a dude having a baby in a car in DC and getting shot at.

And you can't even go to the Library of Congress to chill for a sec.

I may have badly misinterpreted a "there was a baby inside" tweet but I am clinging to my Michael Bay-esque reality

naw I heard that too

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/385856081051664385

Cap police officer tells me: woman had gun, there was an exchange of gunfire, one officer injured. That's the word from his boss

seems like they fired on her cause she was using the car as a weapon, saw a pic of a badly damaged cop car, apparently the cop inside was injured, not sure how bad

Playing the game of telephone, via twitter.

it's hardly http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2302755/?ref_=sr_4

"I am told shooter has been arrested"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0QN_14YdDxc/S37I0HbwSGI/AAAAAAAAADc/Mbowo3Tp6bM/s320/shooter.jpg

conflicting breaking reports, clearly a false flag

http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2012/02/drudge-siren.gif

so wait, she was having a baby in the car and lost control and drove into the white house and got shot by black ops shock troopers?

m/l

Looks like even Infowars is realizing the false flag shit makes them look like idiots:
http://www.infowars.com/woman-with-baby-rams-gates-near-white-house-america-freaks-out/

this is pretty rich coming from them, though:
What’s certain is that the news media will get to enjoy weaving fanciful narratives about the incident over the next couple of days...

they just know how irresistible it is

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/this-is-everything-we-know-about-the-bro-witness-on-capitol

#Disgusting

all these reps running to twitter to let possible shooters know exactly where they are. amazing. 'no you wont find me in my office . im in the cloakroom standing up, possibly on a chair.'

Thou shalt not bro witness.

from that infowars link...

The urgency and hand-wringing freak out that followed courtesy of the network news media once again underscores how the corporate press thrives on turning comparatively minor criminal incidents into crises of apocalyptic proportions.

and um, you guys wouldnt know a thing about turning minor incidents into apocalyptic crises now would you

I REFUSE TO BE PANICKED BY ALL THIS CONSTANT CRAZINESS AROUND ME!!!!

Welcome back to a new academic year and the fresh energy and new ideas it brings. The good news is that the University has never been more beautiful nor the New York weather more spectacular. The bad news is that the United States seems to have lost its federal government, a situation we hope is resolved soon and one we continue to monitor closely (see below).

lol

Chase From White House To Capitol Ends In Gunfire

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A woman driving a black Infiniti with a young child inside tried to ram through a White House barricade Thursday, then led police on a chase toward the Capitol, where police shot and killed her, witnesses and officials said.

Tourists watched the shooting unfold on Constitution Avenue outside the Capitol as lawmakers inside debated how to end a government shutdown. Police quickly locked down the entire complex temporarily, and both houses of Congress went into recess.
Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Tex., who said he was briefed by the Homeland Security Department, said the woman was killed. Asked if she was armed, he replied: "I don't think she was. There was no return fire."

Police described it as an isolated event and saw no indications of terrorism.

The pursuit began when a car with Connecticut plates sped onto the driveway leading to the White House, over a set of lowered barricades. When she couldn't get through a second barrier, she spun the car in the opposite direction, flipping a Secret Service officer over the hood of the car as she sped away, said B.J. Campbell, a visiting tourist from Portland, Ore.

A fleet of police and Secret Service cars chased the Infiniti toward Capitol Hill.

"The car was trying to get away. But it was going over the median and over the curb," said Matthew Coursen, who was on his way to a legislative office building when the Infiniti sped by him. "The car got boxed in and that's when I saw an officer of some kind draw his weapon and fire shots into the car."

Coursen watched the shooting from his cab window.

"I thought to myself, 'The car is getting blocked in. The car is going to surrender,'" he said. "Now the cop has his weapon out. The car kept trying to get away. Then he fired shots."

Senate Sergeant at Arms Terrance Gainer said a child was taken from the car to a hospital but said he knew of no harm to the youngster. Tourist Edmund Ofori-Attah said the child appeared to be about 2 to 3 years old.

A police officer was injured in the traffic accident but Gainer said the injuries were not life threatening.

"We heard three, four, five pops," said Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., who was walking from the Capitol to an office building across the street. Police ordered Casey and nearby tourists to crouch behind a car for protection, then hustled everyone into the Capitol.

"There were multiple shots fired and the air was filled with gunpowder," said Berin Szoka, whose office at a technology think tank overlooks the shooting scene.

The shooting comes two weeks after a mentally disturbed employee terrorized the Navy Yard with a shotgun, leaving 13 people dead including the gunman.

Before the disruption, lawmakers had been trying to find common ground to end a government shutdown. The House had just finished approving legislation aimed at partly lifting the government shutdown by paying National Guard and Reserve members.

U.S. Capitol Police on the plaza around the Capitol said they were working without pay as the result of the shutdown.

have seen directly contradictory statements as to whether the woman was armed, shot back, and even wounded a cop doing so