American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

can we pause for a second on the political ramifications of the shutdown and wait until we figure out what's going on here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/us-capitol-police-capitol-in-lockdown-reports-of-gunshots-and-injured-capitol-police-officer/2013/10/03/fa65a594-2c59-11e3-b141-298f46539716_story.html?hpid=z1

US Capitol Police: Capitol in lockdown; reports of gunshots and injured Capitol police officer

hmm

"I am told shooter has been arrested. House floor activity stopped for now"

ok, back to speculating on political ramifications on the shutdown.

sorry for weird thread policing, it just kind of came out of nowhere and i can hear all the sirens outside and i got kinda freaked out

Yeah I hope Obama recognizes that negotiating with the GOP in 2011 was the biggest mistake he made in his presidency, perhaps his entire life

― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:32 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well tbf he was prob convinced the republicans were going to let the country default in order to crash the economy in order to make sure he wasnt reelected, it was a more difficult situation than people give it credit for

a lot of buzz going around right now that Boehner is pretty much resolved to put the clean CR up for a vote and will use the danger of debt default as his excuse

buzz going on where?

This story has been showing up in various places as a sign that Boehner has made up his mind.

Prior to the shots in the capitol, had a huge red link at the top of their page saying "Boehner Blinks" and linking to the Times article.

I don't know how definitive it all is, but it sounds like he isn't planning to hold out forever.

That article focuses on the debt, and that deadline is not till October 17th.

WASHINGTON — President Obama will not invoke a constitutional amendment to unilaterally increase the nation’s debt limit if an impasse with House Republicans causes that ceiling to be breached Oct. 17, his spokesman said.

“We do not believe that the 14th amendment provides that authority to the president,” the White House press secretary, Jay Carney, said on Thursday. The president, he added, “completely” agrees with his advisers’ legal reasoning.

douthat tries to go deep

http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/why-the-right-fights/

ie conservatives aren't stuck in 2011, they're stuck in the goldwater campaign

tbf they are stuck in the antebellum

https://twitter.com/AlexNBCNews/status/385843289049427968

RT @NBCNews Female driver tried to ram her car into White House gate, Secret Service chased to Capitol Hill - @PeteWilliamsNBC

great plan

if only real life missions had save points like GTA5

When people stop being polite and start getting real:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=277339

:/

(lol @ "great plan")

“We do not believe that the 14th amendment provides that authority to the president”

Purse string issues are pretty clearly vested in the Congress.

But Congress legally required the government to take on all the obligations which the Congress now refuses to fund through either tax revenues or borrowing. But, of course, Congress will not vote to reduce those obligations either. Congress is throwing a tantrum in order to force issues that only it can address.

When people stop being polite and start getting real:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=277339

― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:12 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heavens

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 4m
"driver tried to ram the check point, Secret Service pursued the car and ends up at the capitol, and at 2nd and Con is when shooting happens

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/192346bgl9du3jpg/ku-bigpic.jpg

it's not clear the gunshots were anything other than capitol police firing on the driver

#Disgusting

i'm impressed that a 5-year old girl can use Twitter

Boy named Sue; girl named Tim

worst "false flag" ever:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/theyre-pulling-a-big-distraction-alex-jones-calls-washington-d-c-shooting-a-false-flag/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

please don't

it's not clear the gunshots were anything other than capitol police firing on the driver

― goole, Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:20 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ding

who apparently had a baby in the car if I'm reading reports correctly?

saw one tweet about a child, but not a baby

let alone HAVING one

Bad day: being a dude having a baby in a car in DC and getting shot at.

And you can't even go to the Library of Congress to chill for a sec.

I may have badly misinterpreted a "there was a baby inside" tweet but I am clinging to my Michael Bay-esque reality

naw I heard that too

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/385856081051664385

Cap police officer tells me: woman had gun, there was an exchange of gunfire, one officer injured. That's the word from his boss

seems like they fired on her cause she was using the car as a weapon, saw a pic of a badly damaged cop car, apparently the cop inside was injured, not sure how bad

Playing the game of telephone, via twitter.

it's hardly http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2302755/?ref_=sr_4

"I am told shooter has been arrested"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0QN_14YdDxc/S37I0HbwSGI/AAAAAAAAADc/Mbowo3Tp6bM/s320/shooter.jpg

conflicting breaking reports, clearly a false flag

http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2012/02/drudge-siren.gif

so wait, she was having a baby in the car and lost control and drove into the white house and got shot by black ops shock troopers?

m/l

Looks like even Infowars is realizing the false flag shit makes them look like idiots:
http://www.infowars.com/woman-with-baby-rams-gates-near-white-house-america-freaks-out/

this is pretty rich coming from them, though:
What’s certain is that the news media will get to enjoy weaving fanciful narratives about the incident over the next couple of days...

they just know how irresistible it is

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/this-is-everything-we-know-about-the-bro-witness-on-capitol

#Disgusting

all these reps running to twitter to let possible shooters know exactly where they are. amazing. 'no you wont find me in my office . im in the cloakroom standing up, possibly on a chair.'

Thou shalt not bro witness.

from that infowars link...

The urgency and hand-wringing freak out that followed courtesy of the network news media once again underscores how the corporate press thrives on turning comparatively minor criminal incidents into crises of apocalyptic proportions.

and um, you guys wouldnt know a thing about turning minor incidents into apocalyptic crises now would you