DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

Yeah that's stiffer stuff than i ever figured out of him.

too soon, darragh

The Mail shoot themselves in the foot yet again if they're trying to resist press reform.

Campbell might be right about Dacre "losing the plot" after all

Public denunciations, spies at private memorial service - only one of these parties is acting like they're operating in a totalitarian regime and it isn't Ed Miliband.

to be fair the mail was just being robust, raucous and, by definition, will sometimes offend.

Jon Snow: My source at the Daily Mail tells me Rothermere is fuming: Has given Dacre a one year contract only: wants him out and Geordie Greig in!

https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/385734239028645889

A response to that

Tom Latchem ‏@theboylatch 1m
@jonsnowC4 He's been on 1-year rolling contract for a while, apparently, just extended by a year. And GG is ed of MoS who sent reporter.

So much for sauces. and saucers.

Kinda hoped this was dying down, Little Ed had made his point and should avoid appearing to labour (lol) the point... but along come some stupid cunts from the Mail to give the story a shot in the arm! Hurrah!

Rothermere will be thinking of his investment as well as "what happens if Miliband gets in?" Geordie Grieg is about as establishment as they come but less rabid than Dacre. A Daily Mail under his stewardship would be no less right-wing but with some of the thundering replaced by puff pieces about Kensington socialites no one cares about.

It would also become the Daily Boris within seconds.

Grieg is the current MoS editor. This memorial thing happened on his watch, although he is saying he did not send the journo himself.

Yeah I mean the Mail and MoS newsroom culture is just utterly poisonous and they all get infected with it, it basically all flows down from Dacre.

i was under the impression that greig was fond of subtly undermining dacre, as his rival, rather than supporting him, which makes this interesting

yeah tbf besides the fact that this happened under Greg's watch, there've been rumblings for a while now that he's in line to succeed Dacre soonish. Private Eye mentioned a few weeks ago that he'd been telling friends he'd be in the seat by Christmas iirc.

The smart thing for Greig to do would be to apologise unreservedly and deal with the journos internally. Would put Dacre in a very awkward position.

2 journalists suspended, according to the BBC

Oh it appears he's already done so.

Is there a Private Eye this week?

In Thursday's edition, columnist Stephen Glover accuses Ed Miliband of staging a "show of calculated hysteria" for political reasons.

"On one level, Red Ed knew that, as he has bound himself to his father in a series of speeches, he could not afford to let the accusation that Miliband senior had hated Britain go unchallenged," he wrote.

"On another level, Ed Miliband realised that his diatribes against this paper would go down well with the party faithful, and possibly convince the wider electorate that he was stronger and more determined than they had thought.

"He may also hope that, by creating such an almighty hullabaloo about his supposedly traduced father 19 months before the general election, he will somehow neutralise a potentially embarrassing issue - the influence of his Marxist father on his own beliefs - and deter the press from returning to it in the near future."

Or, you know, he maybe hopes you fuckers would stop disparaging his dead dad. That's how a human being would respond, anyway.

I've heard this argument from other sources (aka right wing twats), blown out the water by this latest indiscretion from the Mail

"supposedly traduced"

lwwwwwwwwwl

i don't think it would be completely unfair to speculate that it was a mainly column b but certainly column a would have been weighed and measured too? not a criticism, but certainly this was also a very good political opportunity to do as described, more fool he that didn't take it at the level of the game he's at.

Somewhere out there, MEL P is sharpening her pen, ready to enter this debate like Godzilla.

"Melanie Phillips", that totally non-fictional columnist.

please can they make liz jones write about it

When you think about it, your ex-husband having an affair IS a bit like fleeing the Holocaust.

Somewhere out there, MEL P is sharpening her pen, ready to enter this debate like Godzilla.

Mel just the girl to take down Ed's evil witch of a mother, I mean:

"a long-standing supporter of left-wing pro-Palestinian organisations" and is a signatory of the founding statements of both Jews for Justice for Palestinians

I can almost see the Phillips' eyes bulging, head revolving, bells clanging, klaxons, sirens etc

Many xps to Stevie: yep!

Slimey squirmy Quentin Letts making an ass of himself on QT now. Unbelievable.

Wrong thread?

Quentin Letts accusing Miliband senior of being a "useful idiot" is beyond parody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIvARoGbS4

(xp) Letts, in contrast, being a useless idiot amirite or a meringue?

Best of all was the spontaneous laughter from the audience when Letts tried to paint a picture of the Mail as anti-establishment outriders tweaking the noses of the powerful and privileged

with friends like that..

that was followed by some UKIP clown putting his hand up to say he supported the Daily Mail in this then admitting he hadn't read any of it

Daily Mail exec demands apology over anti-semitism claims

yeah they've never had a problem with Jewish refugees coming to the UK

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FKUpGU_Jbp0/TE_BYKvF4iI/AAAAAAAAEYE/mYO03sMhqiM/s1600/Daily+Mail+1938+refugee+Jews.jpg

"yeah, he should apologise to me for hurting my fist with his eyeball!"

it's a bit "YOU SIR, ARE A RACIST" to me

Daily Mail exec demands apology over anti-semitism claims

well, they managed to brass it out during the ken livingstone kerfuffle a few years back...

the "YOU SIR..." defence holds a bit more water in that instance

I wasn't aware that it was possible to libel a newspaper, thank you Daily Mail exec for setting me straight.

2 Tory resignations... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24424332 I'm guessing any reshuffle won't involve getting rid of Osborne...

I was in Smith's constituency this weekend. Don't think I did anything that could have made her reconsider her place in government though.

"The badgers moved the goalposts" - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24459424

http://toys.usvsth3m.com/owen-patersons-badger-penalty-shootout/

First skim, I read that as "badgers for goalposts."

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