Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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josh, my point wasn't that the car wash was a good idea, but that the "threaten rich people with penlights to look out for my kid" ain't much better

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:35 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, but they ended up with more money than they could launder, right?

eh just bury it in the desert, problem solved!

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:37 (twelve years ago)

Walt jr will reject the money -he will not want it

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:37 (twelve years ago)

the funniest thing to me is the edict that they not use any of their own money. since they ain't paying Walt in cash, they can technically spurn his desires by just writing a check from their account and never doing anything with his money.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but I love all of the moments when we see that Walt could be successful at any number of other things (Partner in a company that ultimately makes billions! Flourishing car wash! Pretty quick at devising a winning poker strategy!). Not to mention his wide variety of scientific knowledge and handicrafting skill. Tons of signs that the dude could've been a superman in the straight world if only his brain wasn't all fucked up.

Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

idk why WAlt didn't just offer his assassin services. Given his ingenuity, he could kill people without ever being seen. Who wouldn't want that level of stealth?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

Walt's always been naively short-sighted about what he has to do to fix a situation - it's been a major thread throughout the whole season. 'if I can just explain', 'if I can just convince him', 'if I can just remove the immediate problem of [Tuco, Jesse, Gus, whatever]...' It's totally clear that his efforts in the finale are along the same lines, obv some now successful. He always brings out these kind of magic tickets that he thinks will solve everything but just get him to the next problem. I don't think we're meant to view his scheme with the money or the co-ordinates as any different, particularly?

I did feel the lack of Jesse over the past few episodes, but I don't know what they could've done with him that wouldn't have been tacked-on.

btw haven't posted in this thread yet since watching it so can I just remind everyone: Todd's Lydia ringtone LOOOL

kinder, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

"whatever happens to me, know that two of the most successful hitmen west of the mississipp' got 100k each to make sure you don't use a CENT of your money when giving millions to my kid. And even if I'm dead, they're going to do this, because it's the assassin's code."

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

It's totally clear that his efforts in the finale are along the same lines, obv some now successful. He always brings out these kind of magic tickets that he thinks will solve everything but just get him to the next problem. I don't think we're meant to view his scheme with the money or the co-ordinates as any different, particularly?

otm, this is pretty much how my father solves financial issues these days *facepalm*

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

xpost "and if Walt Jr refuses the money from you...they'll kill him."

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)

jesse's artisanal box making fantasy was very iron chef chairman kaga reverie

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)

I did feel the lack of Jesse over the past few episodes, but I don't know what they could've done with him that wouldn't have been tacked-on.


wasn't the first time

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/520077a3eab8ea3b41000023/jesse-yellow-suit-breaking-bad.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)

integral part of arc iirc

kinder, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

It was Walt at the hospital for a long time and JESSE DON'T YOU LEAVE THE LAB for like three or four episodes.

pplains, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)

Walt Jr. will receive the money in a blind trust from generous family friends. He will have no reason to suspect his dad. Unless Walt broke the poor lil' guy forever. Certainly they couldn't say it was gambling winnings.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)

they'll organize a school spelling bee with a purse of 9 million dollars and rig it so he wins. airtight.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)

Folks desperate to distance themselves from Walter White give NINE MILLION DOLLARS to the children of Walter White, nothing weird there.

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

they'll organize a school spelling bee with a purse of 9 million dollars and rig it so he wins. airtight.

"Your word is: breakfast."

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

Just because his dad was a criminal, that doesn't mean Walt Jr and Holly shouldn't go to college. Hence, nine million dollars.

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)

College is very expensive.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

it's already bad, god knows how expensive it'll be in 20 years

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)

i always thought they might show walt jr. having inherited some of his parents' capacity for evil but maybe holly is the bad seed

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

"I am the one who noshes!"

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

did marie say "truce" when skylar first picked up the phone?

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:20 (twelve years ago)

yes

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

Skyler's prob been acting all high and mighty about Marie's shop-lifting.

brio, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)

yeah, I'm fairly sure Marie probably stopped talking to her after she found out Hank was dead.

xpost lol

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)

i'm sure they could find a lot to fight about.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:36 (twelve years ago)

Have to believe that APBs must be extremely ineffective in whatever town in NM that Skylar lives in.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:38 (twelve years ago)

can i just say how much i loved walt knocking the snow off his window like he was the fonz or something? so good. a bit like with the keys falling from the visor, it's like hey - this is a show, remember? let's get into this thing.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)

it was kinda funny how the scene with jack & walt played out both in cliched fashion ("wait, don't shoot, let me insult your ego to buy myself time") followed by the opposite.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:55 (twelve years ago)

Walt jr will reject the money -he will not want it

― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cmon walt junior will remain a naive schmuck long after discovering the truth abt his father

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)

I haven't read every single comment here, but another way it didn't all work out for Walt was that his family is left believing he killed Uncle Hank. And not that his unintended actions, his unleashing the Nazis on Hank killed him. But he wanted Hank killed and it happened.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)

ha I don't know why I just called him Uncle Hank

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)

he tells skyler what really happened, didn't he? in the kitchen?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)

sorry for mixing tenses there.... guess i just can't let go

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)

yeah he told Skyler the truth about it. who knows if she believes him.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)

Well, he told her at the same meeting where the first time he took full responsibility for being a dick. So she was at least primed to believe him. Of course, how she conveys that information to her family is another matter. "Oh, btw, dad didn't kill Hank. But he did tell me where Hank is buried!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)

everybody will believe it once the feds piece together the murders. i didn't get the feeling the nazis scrubbed that desert crime scene too good.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)

We buried him... on a hill... overlooking a little river... with pine cones all around.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)

<i> a bit like with the keys falling from the visor, it's like hey - this is a show, remember? let's get into this thing. </i>

this is what I meant upthread but worded 10x better... Its a signal to the audience the following events could only really occur in TV

JLB Credit (Jack BS), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)

Or ... in Walt's head!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)

Nussbaum pseudo-theory, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)

Sorry if I duplicate any prev. posts, but Emily Nussbaum is mostly OTM (also some of the replies to her finale review posted on http://thenewyorker.com). The dreamlike quality she was struck by goes with the "this is a show, remember", and yeah it could all be Walt's reverie---but as several of Nussbaum's readers point out, having the ep end with a dead frozen Walt confirmation--"yep, it was all a dream, folks---literally!"--could be more schlocka than shocka, a la Dallas. So, my fan fiction goes like this: yep, he does caress his sweet machine like he did Baby Holly, as his recompense/revenge allows him finally to merge Walt and Heisenberg--and yep, he does fall---but back to the breakfast table scene, where he collapses, puking blood all over Lydia's "cornsilk, like, shirt" and Li'L Opie's corncrop. Credits Roll. Jesse's still on his lab zipchain, but he's dialing up the pressure. Final shot: Albequerque by night, seen from above. A fire blossom appears in the lower left corner.

dow, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)

Brock's safe, unless he's in the compound (surely the didn't leave him in his house, to be found by cops and turned over to social services, although the in-system Aryans may have associates there too)

dow, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

surely the didn't leave him in his house

of course they would have. they aren't running Nazi daycare

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:37 (twelve years ago)

A fire blossom appears in the lower left corner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXw6znXPfy4

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:47 (twelve years ago)

lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:49 (twelve years ago)

Re all of Walt's plans coming off in this episode being too neat/lucky, I guess the moralist take on this is that his acceptance that he would die friendless and unredeemed is what allowed everything to work out finally - before, he had always aimed too high, always wanted to earn lots of money AND be the scariest guy on the block AND get away with it entirely and still be liked by everyone. In all of the previous situations of him seeking to pull off convoluted plans, Walt's seeming light at the end of the tunnel turned out to be the harbinger of the next catastrophe on its way. Here, he gives up on the notion of the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's this which allows everything to play out as he intended.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 00:09 (twelve years ago)

but we don't know if everything played out as he intended at all

da croupier, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 00:11 (twelve years ago)


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