Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

yes, we need a shot of lydia's kid crying, definitely

It wouldn't have taken much for the writers to show the very real effects Walt's crimes had had on these people,

Sure, would have made for a delightful 3 hour finale...

a moralizing final montage of the wages of sin would have totally put this one over the top

Tuomas otm, what we definitely needed was Gilligan spoonfeeding the audience every thing they should have felt and that would happen in the forseeable future. and then submitted 730 page FAQ to all fans of the show to answer any other lingering questions not satisfied by the ep.

if he'd just accepted the Gray Matter money for the cancer treatment and had never started to cook meth

he had already been cooking for awhile before they offered it just fwiw

a montage set to Madonna's "Oh Father," ending with a single tear onto a breakfast plate

jesse is still wanted right

― socki (s1ocki), Monday, September 30, 2013 4:43 PM (2 minutes ago)

I'm not sure he is! Hank and Steve, the only DEA guys who had all the pieces of the puzzle, are dead, and the series ends with the cops finding Heisenberg in a lab. If they dust for prints they'll find Jesse's, but it's easy to imagine them saying "welp...we got the bad guy, let's go to Winchell's."

isnt there some evidence of jesse? hmmm

the only thing they really had on him was him throwing lots of money into the street I think

RIP Walter White will never forget u

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OMG since Gilligan doesn't need to censor himself he is letting loose with his show pitches over the years on the BB insider podcast.

First: Pitch for season 5b - Skylar goes with Walt and the disappearer. They're at a motel 6 somewhere and Walt is talking to Skylar through a locked bathroom door 'its going to be okay it will be fine, Skylar. Skylar?' he forces the door open and there's Skylar in a bathtub o' blood.

Second: Before he even had a writing staff he pitched this season 2-ish idea. Jesse gets killed by some drug lord. Like a guy more bad ass than any they actually had on the show. Walt takes Jesse's death personally and goes out for revenge. He chloroforms the guy then shackles him in the white house basement. He sets up a rifle with a trip wire aimed directly at the guys heart. The guy has the option to pull the tripwire and kill himself at anytime. Each day at 4pm Walt goes down to the basement and, starting from the bottom up, cuts a piece of the guy off then cauterizes the wound with a blowtorch. So first its the toes then feet etc. Walt gets up to the guys knees but this guy is so crazy badass that despite the pain he refuses to pull the trip line. Then one day Walt Jr wanders on down to the basement and finds this guy. He freaks out and run to get water for him and call the police. As he is leaning over to bring the water bottle to the guy's lips the dude pulls the trip line and kills the both. BOOM.

APD picked him up for throwing millions of dollars around like confetti, but Saul bailed him out, and did they really have anything else on him? xxps

Skylar. Skylar?' he forces the door open and there's Skylar in a bathtub o' blood.

wow, glad that didn't happen, too Dexter for my tastes....

and im only 14 minutes in to the podcast. i love this guy <3

I asked a few hours ago if Jesse had any hope of starting over. I thought Marie would tell the feds about'em.

the only thing they really had on him was him throwing lots of money into the street I think

they have DVDs of him confessing to murder

no, the Nazis do. or did.

wagering they destroyed them after watching, though was never shown obv

crazy that they considered doing a báthory story for skylar!

Tuomas otm, what we definitely needed was Gilligan spoonfeeding the audience every thing they should have felt and that would happen in the forseeable future.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

I don't think it would've been that difficult or finger-pointy to make the final episodes at bit more even-handed. They could've shown how Skyler was dealing with her new life as the Wife of Heisenberg and her new taxi dispatcher job. They could've shown Lydia's kid on the background when Walt was killing her. They could've given Marie even one proper scene after Hank's death. They could've shown just a brief glimpse of Gomey's family. Etc. I think it's telling that even though most supporting players had arcs and characterication of their own during the previous season, almost all of that was ignored during season 5B.

Nazis had sacked the place, but it was by no means made clear that they had gotten all the evidence. Jack wanted to kill Jesse because he fingered Todd on the confession, so it was clear in Jack's mind at least that there was a good chance the feds/DEA knew about it

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I would have loved this ending: Walt dying on the floor as police walk closer, fade to black, fade back to white as walt is brought back by paramedics -> montage of him in custody, no agency, humiliated, his son and marie yelling at him at trial, him dying of cancer, alone and pathetic, in a hospital bed.

Would have giving him the triumph, but then taking all control away from him.

They could've given Marie even one proper scene after Hank's death.

she was a terrible character tbh I'm glad they didn't do this

They could've shown how Skyler was dealing with her new life as the Wife of Heisenberg and her new taxi dispatcher job. They could've shown Lydia's kid on the background when Walt was killing her. They could've given Marie even one proper scene after Hank's death.

yeah, see it sounds to me that you didn't think this episode was tidy enough.

I don't think it would've been that difficult or finger-pointy to make the final episodes at bit more even-handed. They could've shown how Skyler was dealing with her new life as the Wife of Heisenberg and her new taxi dispatcher job. They could've shown Lydia's kid on the background when Walt was killing her. They could've given Marie even one proper scene after Hank's death. They could've shown just a brief glimpse of Gomey's family. Etc. I think it's telling that even though most supporting players had arcs and characterication of their own during the previous season, almost all of that was ignored during season 5B.

― Tuomas, Monday, September 30, 2013 5:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why would any of this had been good?

for any reason except to prove that the show's creators and viewers were morally above it all?

so sad we didn't get 10 scenes of Marie crying and screaming "HANK! YOU WERE MY ROCK, HOW DO I GO ON?"

it would have been so fuckin weak, and like croup said, the tidiest of endings, really

for that matter where was Gomie's wife, why was she left out?

wish we'd seen how the DEA office dealt with their deaths and the structural and managerial challenges they would have faced... vince gilligan is a monster

I was relieved we didn't see the rest of the family except in small bits. The episode tried to be schmaltz-free -- and largely was.

wish we could have seen the Skylar meeting with the prosecutor too

why would any of this had been good?

Because it would've made the finale feel less like Walt won, like he did good in the end. And it would've made viewer remember there used to be other interesting characters in the series too.

xpost "For the information you've supplied me...I think we can cut you a deal".
"You don't cut me anything. I cut YOU!!!" (pulls out knife out of pants pocket, stabs prosecutor)

(Looks up at sky) "That was for you, Walt"

the finale DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WALT WON TO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE POSTING ITT

so sad we didn't get 10 scenes of Marie crying and screaming "HANK! YOU WERE MY ROCK, HOW DO I GO ON?"

MINERAL

And it would've made viewer remember there used to be other interesting characters in the series too.

why do you have so little respect for the viewer? I mean, you remembered.

i mean we totally see how marie and skylar are living, and it's depressing as fuck. Even with Walt's moolah hypothetically on the way, I didn't feel like the show didn't give me enough signals that they're suffering for walt's crimes.

xpost hahaha

xposts would've been nice to see more of Marie but idk exactly what. i like my tv spoonfed to me in small chunks but i would've welcomed those last 2 episodes being 10-15 minutes longer cos there's a lot more character stuff they could've done

And it would've made viewer remember there used to be other interesting characters in the series too.

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Tuomas, it's devastating that Walt left his wife a chain smoker who will likely develop cancer herself.

admittedly if you go into shows about crime and drugs with the need that they make thunderously clear that drugs are bad and crime is bad, then yeah, this show wasn't as good as the wire.

And it would've made viewer remember there used to be other interesting characters in the series too

not really. Walt was always the most interesting. Marie was terribly drawn, Skyler pretty one-note for much of the series

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xxpost I mean sure, there's probably a few meatheaded cockfarmers who left their Breaking Bad parties going "YES! GO WALT! BOOMSHACKALACKA!" but who gives a fuck

i was p stoked that walt killed all the nazis

yeah it was awesome

oh def, but I was also happy that it killed him indirectly as well

while we didn't get one last "BITCH!" I'm glad we got one last "WAIT! WAIT! BEFORE YOU KILL ME...*Walt pulls lethal rabbit out of hat*"

feel like Skyler got some depth towards the end as she was sort of whiplashed between being confidante/co-conspirator/victim. don't think she got the shaft in this episode at all, her scene was really great.

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i mean i'm glad this shit got dark towards the end but it was only truly dark for like 7 episodes, there were 4.5 seasons of pulpy mayhem and the finale did what it should have and respected that.