a shot at redemption you might say
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
xpost Only some. I mean his body count is way too high, too many lives destroyed by him directly or indirectly, to come even close to doing that just by Home Alone-machine gunning a buncha Nazis down. But at least he showed some remorse, helped his remaining family out a bit, and well....didn't kill anybody else that didn't deserve it.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:27 (twelve years ago)
was it just me, or was anybody else wondering how bad Walt had to have smelled when he walked into the Schwartzes house?
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
really loved & would write thinkpiece about the moment when Jack tries to squirm out of getting shot and Walt doesn't listen - that's the redemptive moment, Walt is no longer in the game in any way and isn't hearing any offers. he's done; he's dead to all that.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
I wasn't thinking about redemption, only B.O.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
yeah aerosmith otm - my favorite moment, where he tried to bargain and he just 86'ed em ice cold.
also Lydia looking like death was an A+ makeup job.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
it did seem perfect and appropriate for the show. wrapping everything together in a neat/satisfying way.
what does 'redemption' really mean? marie, skyler, walt jr and even holly are going to have a really hard time in life regardless of whether anyone gets $9 million
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
she removes the pumps, she turns into Cinderella at her stepmother's.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
I like the elbow-in-the-ribs suggestion that Skylar's gonna get cancer herself.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
walt got redemption in that he was shown to not be a total psychopath
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
I'm just glad Jesse got to kill Todd painfully
Pretty good ending IMO.
― goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:30 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ain't nobody itt saying Walt went out with a clean slate, I mean....dude died with way too many sins to answer for, and obviously, his surviving family's lives are destroyed. However, for the first time in about 1.5 years, he managed to actually save a few lives and salvage his family's financial future. So as I said....some redemption. Dude still died an evil son of a bitch, no doubt, but at least finally admitted who he was and acted to benefit others rather than himself.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
lil copout-ish that he gets kilt by mechanized gunshot i feel
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'd say it happened when he bodyshielded jesse from the bulletstorm, got a lil emotional during that part, but yeah that was a great moment
― slam dunk, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
they did it. huzzah!
fuckin' love that Baby Blue
― Nhex, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
yeah, Jesse Jabba-Hutting Todd was one OTT moment I ate up.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
he had remorse, he was able to offer some measure of comfort to some of the people he hurt
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
― Neanderthal,
will go to bed soon with images of Jesse in Leia bra dancing in my head. bless you.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)
todds reaction to the massacre was so todd
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)
admiration!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:36 (twelve years ago)
maybe gretchen and that other guy really are obnoxiously upper class and all, but it kind of bothers me that they're supposed to go through the rest of their lives being responsible for laundering $9 mil of walt's money and looking over their shoulders
i liked the scarface moment though, they actually went there
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)
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― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)
walt seemed to really enjoy menacing them
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)
the Mercedes ads tie-in is the funniest thing ever. "It has style you'd sell your soul for!" <- actual line laid over footage from final season & scene of Mercedes hugging curves
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)
Liked the flashback, obvious as it was, to episode 1 when he was milling about his old house.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)
gretchen & elliot will be fine, marginally more anxious & paranoid obv, but fine
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)
I hope Heisenberg proactively called child services since Lydia's about to check out. Don't want another kid discovering their dead parent.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)
badger and skinny pete keeping an eye on them
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)
are we supposed to have much sympathy for the Schwartzes? isn't the presumption that they're living the high life that Walt deserved to have? i guess that's one of the biggest question marks over the series, what really happened when he left the company and why, but i got the sense that they reaped all the profit from his brilliance or w/e.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)
lost all sympathy when Elliott pulled out the kitchen knife and tried to act menacing w/ it
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)
he left of his own accord and sold them his shares and they tried to help him when he was sick they seem like nice people
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
my impression is that he fucked that up somehow (possible love triangle except we know he met skylar as a waitress when he was there) but his ego would never allow him to admit it.
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:45 (twelve years ago)
seemed like he just left as a passive aggressive self defeating loser move
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)
yeah, even Gretchen was like "you left me when we were at my dad's" or something like that.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)
i felt like i was watching a haneke film when walt creeped into the schwartzes' house. i don't really need to feel sympathetic to think it's not right for them to have to worry about getting shot for the rest of their lives & have to figure out some illegal way to bank that pile of cash - i think the show wants you to gloss that over because they're rich and i guess sort of snooty, so it's ok for walt to disrupt their lives by dragging them into this
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)
naw that was mean for sure
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)
so I think we should resume the debate on what the cops are going to do with the 80 mill they find in the Nazis compound.
"hey chief, yeah there was some money at the compound, only about 1-2 million dollars tho"
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)
maybe somewhat justified by them misrepresenting his contributions to their fortune on charlie rose tho
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)
look they're rich as hell and don't really have enough exciting shit going on in their lives they'll get over it. also they minimized walt's role in the founding of the company right there on national tv. inhuman monsters imo
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:50 (twelve years ago)
fuckin xp
xxxpost I don't think the show wanted us to gloss over that, I mean, it was still pure cheesedickery. don't think Gilligan actually wanted audiences to lionize Walt when all was said and done just cuz he took some redemptive measures.
also, no "bitch" in this episode?
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:51 (twelve years ago)
thought he was gonna give Charlie Rose the ricin
anyhow show's kinda ridiculously overrated at the moment which is fine, it's had a really fun endrun, but i'm curious how it's regarded in a few years and whether ppl feel the need to revisit it the way they do the sopranos, the wire, deadwood. also wonder if what kind of limits it (for me at least) - that it was 'just' a piece of very very well executed entertainment - might be the thing that makes it a workable model for other shows in the future (certainly more than the wire or deadwood). boardwalk empire's not on this level but it's a similar thing - not much to say about anything but intelligent enough and loads of fun.
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:53 (twelve years ago)
All they have to do to not live in endless fear is find a way to give the money to Walt jr in what, a couple of months? Also, they are multi-millionaires (billionaires?) absorbing 9 million dollars isn't going to be a huge hardship imo.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:54 (twelve years ago)
well walt needs to make sure they follow thru once they hear hes ded. he might feel bad abt manipulating them
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:55 (twelve years ago)
Elliott is probably going to start packing out of paranoia and will accidentally shoot the mailman one day. money never gets to Flynn.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:55 (twelve years ago)
the stevia industry must have really conflicted emotions about all this product placement
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:55 (twelve years ago)
i liked the scene where he's wandering around the school to see walt jr. i don't know how memorable it is once they wrap up with the whole scarface thing vs the nazis, because it had to be cool at the end. but really he can't even go talk to his son now and that seemed more important.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:56 (twelve years ago)
Also, I think jesses "ultimate bitch" was when he popped the deadbolt, so good on you Aaron Paul!
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:56 (twelve years ago)
xp man that feels like a weird take coming from you - do you feel like a movie/book/tv show has to have "something to say" to be truly great? idk really I didn't watch any of those other shows but I thought this was...well, dickensian, right down to that tie-up-the-ends ending, which made it really watchable. otoh I tried to watch fuckin' mad men twice and I was like...I do not give a shit about these people I hope they all get tortured by nazis in the new mexico desert
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:56 (twelve years ago)