That was really well constructed, imo. Didn't feel rushed, didn't feel padded.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:18 (twelve years ago)
but it really fit the show I thought - the whole show from season one has had that kinda thing. it was a stretch, but the show's full of stretches. "enslaved by nazis to cook meth" is a bigger stretch than the mcguyver gun imo
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:18 (twelve years ago)
wow. totally different direction than I thought they were going, and I'm glad.
The scene in the kitchen, where he finally admitted his motivation. Watching Flynn for the last time.
Jesse's badass action hero revenge-strangling of Todd. Badger and Pete's Keystone Kops turn. The trunk-machine gun. Walt point-blanking Uncle Nazi.
Definitely wanna watch again, but satisfying overall.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
Such a fucking perfect ending song.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
xpost yeah I mean no more of a stretch than whan he detonated Tuco's building.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)
That was perfect
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)
fuckin skinny pete and badger as fake assassins. I liked this episode as well as any episode honestly.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)
Trunk-gun no wilder than wheelchair-bomb.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:22 (twelve years ago)
A good episode: the restaurant meeting with Todd and Lydia built tension perfection. I guess I don't like explicit scenes -- I didn't need Walt to spell out why he was doing this when I guess most of us knew for years.
I'm relieved, though, that we got no Flynn, only one scene with Skylar and Marie apiece.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:22 (twelve years ago)
thematically i didn't love it (in the end Walt pretty much got all he wanted, as far as leaving money to his family, and not losing anyone he cared about besides Hank, who he didn't even like when the show started), but as far as execution it was pretty damn well done, lots of great individual scenes that fell together perfectly.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)
no schmaltz in this episode
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)
by avoiding histrionics for the most part (outside of the trunk gun, obv), made for a better finale. Walt died (somewhat) redeemed.
Meanwhile Gretchen and Elliott will live the rest of their lives afraid of laser pointers.
xpost I mean the show didn't 'need' Walt spelling it out, but it was effective because it was his first genuine mea culpa to Skyler, which is why she brightened a little after he said it. It was less for the audience, more for her.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)
i liked the contemplative tone, felt good
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:24 (twelve years ago)
I mean the show didn't 'need' Walt spelling it out, but it was effective because it was his first genuine mea culpa to Skyler, which is why she brightened a little after he said it. It was less for the audience, more for her.
I guess I like what the show does well so much that I expect it to be colder.
was he redeemed? It didn't even occur to me.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:25 (twelve years ago)
walt got redemption
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:25 (twelve years ago)
a shot at redemption you might say
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
xpost Only some. I mean his body count is way too high, too many lives destroyed by him directly or indirectly, to come even close to doing that just by Home Alone-machine gunning a buncha Nazis down. But at least he showed some remorse, helped his remaining family out a bit, and well....didn't kill anybody else that didn't deserve it.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:27 (twelve years ago)
was it just me, or was anybody else wondering how bad Walt had to have smelled when he walked into the Schwartzes house?
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
really loved & would write thinkpiece about the moment when Jack tries to squirm out of getting shot and Walt doesn't listen - that's the redemptive moment, Walt is no longer in the game in any way and isn't hearing any offers. he's done; he's dead to all that.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
I wasn't thinking about redemption, only B.O.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
yeah aerosmith otm - my favorite moment, where he tried to bargain and he just 86'ed em ice cold.
also Lydia looking like death was an A+ makeup job.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
it did seem perfect and appropriate for the show. wrapping everything together in a neat/satisfying way.
what does 'redemption' really mean? marie, skyler, walt jr and even holly are going to have a really hard time in life regardless of whether anyone gets $9 million
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
she removes the pumps, she turns into Cinderella at her stepmother's.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
I like the elbow-in-the-ribs suggestion that Skylar's gonna get cancer herself.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
walt got redemption in that he was shown to not be a total psychopath
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
I'm just glad Jesse got to kill Todd painfully
Pretty good ending IMO.
― goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:30 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ain't nobody itt saying Walt went out with a clean slate, I mean....dude died with way too many sins to answer for, and obviously, his surviving family's lives are destroyed. However, for the first time in about 1.5 years, he managed to actually save a few lives and salvage his family's financial future. So as I said....some redemption. Dude still died an evil son of a bitch, no doubt, but at least finally admitted who he was and acted to benefit others rather than himself.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
lil copout-ish that he gets kilt by mechanized gunshot i feel
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'd say it happened when he bodyshielded jesse from the bulletstorm, got a lil emotional during that part, but yeah that was a great moment
― slam dunk, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
they did it. huzzah!
fuckin' love that Baby Blue
― Nhex, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
yeah, Jesse Jabba-Hutting Todd was one OTT moment I ate up.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
he had remorse, he was able to offer some measure of comfort to some of the people he hurt
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
― Neanderthal,
will go to bed soon with images of Jesse in Leia bra dancing in my head. bless you.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)
todds reaction to the massacre was so todd
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)
admiration!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:36 (twelve years ago)
maybe gretchen and that other guy really are obnoxiously upper class and all, but it kind of bothers me that they're supposed to go through the rest of their lives being responsible for laundering $9 mil of walt's money and looking over their shoulders
i liked the scarface moment though, they actually went there
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)
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― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)
walt seemed to really enjoy menacing them
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)
the Mercedes ads tie-in is the funniest thing ever. "It has style you'd sell your soul for!" <- actual line laid over footage from final season & scene of Mercedes hugging curves
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)
Liked the flashback, obvious as it was, to episode 1 when he was milling about his old house.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)
gretchen & elliot will be fine, marginally more anxious & paranoid obv, but fine
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)
I hope Heisenberg proactively called child services since Lydia's about to check out. Don't want another kid discovering their dead parent.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)
badger and skinny pete keeping an eye on them
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)
are we supposed to have much sympathy for the Schwartzes? isn't the presumption that they're living the high life that Walt deserved to have? i guess that's one of the biggest question marks over the series, what really happened when he left the company and why, but i got the sense that they reaped all the profit from his brilliance or w/e.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)
lost all sympathy when Elliott pulled out the kitchen knife and tried to act menacing w/ it
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)
he left of his own accord and sold them his shares and they tried to help him when he was sick they seem like nice people
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
my impression is that he fucked that up somehow (possible love triangle except we know he met skylar as a waitress when he was there) but his ego would never allow him to admit it.
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:45 (twelve years ago)
seemed like he just left as a passive aggressive self defeating loser move
― ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)
yeah, even Gretchen was like "you left me when we were at my dad's" or something like that.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)
i felt like i was watching a haneke film when walt creeped into the schwartzes' house. i don't really need to feel sympathetic to think it's not right for them to have to worry about getting shot for the rest of their lives & have to figure out some illegal way to bank that pile of cash - i think the show wants you to gloss that over because they're rich and i guess sort of snooty, so it's ok for walt to disrupt their lives by dragging them into this
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 September 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)