The Irish

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

Dundee United also followed the Hibs model and were originally called Dundee Hibernian.

um, oh, look, just,

look, they aren't the 'irish' team in scotland. come on!

Not any more, no. People generally support Hibs if they're from east Edinburgh

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

I wd have said they were more the "Catholic" team than the "Irish" team, but, y'know, I'm not going to argue about it.

FOR A CHANGE

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap. Ahhh the keystone of our young love....

The fuck is wrong with my typing this morning? Love OF Guinness, and Budweiser.

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

every post on ilx should have "Then again, who really gives a shit" as its coda.

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap.

that's like the way English people drink lame-o lagers instead of real ale.

It's funny though... in general I am against patriotism and nationalism, but I feel that it is very important that I drink Guinness and not foreign drinks.

I feel that it's very important that I drink Guinness.
I also feel very strongly about not drinking horse-piss.
It's a win-win situation.

I like Guiness and Budweiser. Not because I'm third generation Irish but because they taste good (to me and I like to get fucked up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/02/ireland

I am reading Roy Foster's LUCK & THE IRISH. Has anyone else read or even thought about it?

Haven't read it but it sounds interesting. Are you far enough into it to decide if it's worth reading or not?

Ned, I can't believe you don't love " St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America." My dog has an Irish name (Declan) so he has to put up with wearing a shamrock kerchief every St Patrick's Day. He loves the beer part of it at least ;-)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/418896575_92f41654dc_m.jpg
being tortured by wearing said kerchief at a st patrick's parade

Oh yes, it's definitely worth reading! Foster always is, whatever else you think of him.

At the moment I'm reading about Irish feminists' campaigns for contraceptives etc in the 1970s; to do what they did in that society I think they had to be very imaginative and courageous.

Did we all realise Conor Cruise O;Brien snuffed it, btw?

Yes.

What's the best thing to read by him then?

I've got Herod but it's one of these ludicrous situations where it just looks so imposing that I've bottled out of even opening it

"it went all the way up my gowl"

no sound at work :(

"why do you ride hippos?"

meme potential there.

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music?

This was waaaaaay up there a while ago, but if any ilxor has the chance to glom onto a copy of the somewhat obscure CD by Alasdair Fraser (fiddle) and Natalie Haas (cello) titled Fire and Grace, they will not be disappointed.

It is musically impeccable. Virtuoso playing, emotionally charged and gracefully performed. Plus, you could dance to it. Top drawer. Hot shit. Strongly recommended.

Also, most of the catalog by the group Altan is exceptionally good.

can't get this put of my head lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7birRBmNM

love the 'rocky road to dublin'. there's a live recording i have where youre like 'where is he pausing for breath?', hes just belting it out.

http://twitter.com/Garda_Siochana

i'm bumping this purely cos i feel some irish ilxors may enjoy, sorry about such shameless promotion. started it last sat and already have 110 followers.

blocked at work, don't use twitter but will have a look later

# might hit the garda bar a bit later, can't beat hanging out with people who do exactly the same job as me in a bar named after my exact job 2:10 PM Dec 16th from web

lawl

btw I am informed that the Spurs team were spotted in Copper Face Jack's nightclub last week - trust they were well behaved

i heard they were in malahide!

they were in gibneys in malahide yeah, my local!

gibneys was in the tabloids in the uk...a touching moment

just read the whole thing, lolled all the way.

Haha, needed something to fill the void caused by the Phil Brown Twitter's demise

lol the media guy for that anti eu group libertas keeps retweeting it!

wanna go back tbh

where in ireland did you live?

love the 'rocky road to dublin'. there's a live recording i have where youre like 'where is he pausing for breath?', hes just belting it out.

― Michael B,

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtEKUWRpUWg&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGSc1iLcIw

racist

Ok so just slightly less but still bad.

i dont know that it gets like london bad tbf, if that helps

I could have a trial. I should renew my Portuguese passport.

And my cousin has been living and working in Dublin for the last couple of years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cwy8450qkwwo

I’m actually home end of July for a few days and praying this coincides with another heatwave here